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5 minutes ago, SeanF said:

Operation Meetinghouse was actually more brutal.

Operation what? I've heard stuff like "Market Garden", but "Meetinghouse?" 

 

Besides, I think we can at least all agree that an atom bomb will be far more destructive and thorough than a dragon, even combined with wildfire. 

 

Indeed, @HoodedCrow

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We and the medievals deliver death to civilians in different ways, but the outcome is similar.

For us, it’s blockades, economic sanctions,  and bombing.  For the medievals it was murder, arson, and pillage.

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2 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said:

Operation what? I've heard stuff like "Market Garden", but "Meetinghouse?" 

 

Besides, I think we can at least all agree that an atom bomb will be far more destructive and thorough than a dragon, even combined with wildfire. 

 

Indeed, @HoodedCrow

The firebombing of Tokyo on 9/10th March 1945 was the most brutal aerial attack in history, killing 90-130,000 people.

A modern nuclear warhead would be far more devastating, however.

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38 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said:

You could argue that it was necessary to end the war quicker, so that a US invasion of Japan didn't screw it up even more. (Two atom bombs is a little.....extreme). 

For what it’s worth, Russia declared war on Japan the same day the bomb dropped on Nagasaki, and many historians believe this double act is what led to their surrender. Usually when people cite this, they do it to condemn the USA’s use of the atomic bomb, but I actually think it has the opposite effect, since it would indicate that Japan’s leaders didn’t think the bomb was “bad enough” on its own to surrender without the additional threat of the Red Army.

Speaking of Russia, someone with more knowledge about the USSR than me could probably make a compelling argument for why Lenin is an historical counterpart for Dany.

There are other questionable acts of war that don’t get as much attention. Sherman’s March to Sea is one that’s always stuck with me. It helped end the Civil War, yes, but he still burned multiple cities to the ground. Not to mention that, since the North was fighting to preserve the Union, this was technically his own country he was destroying. 

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11 hours ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

For what it’s worth, Russia declared war on Japan the same day the bomb dropped on Nagasaki, and many historians believe this double act is what led to their surrender. Usually when people cite this, they do it to condemn the USA’s use of the atomic bomb, but I actually think it has the opposite effect, since it would indicate that Japan’s leaders didn’t think the bomb was “bad enough” on its own to surrender without the additional threat of the Red Army.

Speaking of Russia, someone with more knowledge about the USSR than me could probably make a compelling argument for why Lenin is an historical counterpart for Dany.

There are other questionable acts of war that don’t get as much attention. Sherman’s March to Sea is one that’s always stuck with me. It helped end the Civil War, yes, but he still burned multiple cities to the ground. Not to mention that, since the North was fighting to preserve the Union, this was technically his own country he was destroying. 

For all of it's supposed "gritty realism", the show runners' treatment of Daenerys' war was basically dishonest in Seasons 7 and 8.  Varys promised "fire and blood" in Season 6 to Ellaria and Olenna, yet had turned into a near-pacifist in Season 7.  Daenerys had rolled up with a massive army and fleet, yet he and Tyrion were advocating convoluted strategies of non-violent resistance against Cersei, of all people!  The narrative framed Olenna and Yara as wrong for advocating Dany flying to the capital and flattening the Red Keep, when this was the obvious thing to do, and would have saved huge numbers of lives, as well as enabling the South to present a united front against the Others.

And, don't get me started on the Tarlys!

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On 11/24/2021 at 10:37 PM, HokieStone said:

" the bottom line is that the book’s ending is a more satisfying experience than the show’s"

I mean...it seems unlikely we'll ever get that "satisfying experience" at this point....

Well in my book, no ending is still more satisfying than that disaster of the show's ending ...

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