A Horse Named Stranger Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 The old thread past the 20 page mark and it's Whamageddon time. As with every other scaandal it will be forgotten in 3-4 months. The next scandal is waiting just around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Allegra Stratton has quit (I assume she’ll skip having a leaving party). Oh, and a spoof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 If Stratton quits then surely that means that the party did happen.. which doesn't give Boris even a tiny blonde leg to stand on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, Heartofice said: If Stratton quits then surely that means that the party did happen.. which doesn't give Boris even a tiny blonde leg to stand on. He doesnt have allegra to stand on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Heartofice said: If Stratton quits then surely that means that the party did happen.. which doesn't give Boris even a tiny blonde leg to stand on. from the little I've read she has quit because she is a distration and is sorry for her comments on the video not for the party itslelf. Making her resignation statement through tears, Allegra Stratton said she had become a distraction in the fight against Covid because of her comments in the video. She said the British people had made immense sacrifices and apologised for comments that "seemed to make light of the rules". "I will regret those remarks for the rest of my days and offer my profound apologies to all of you for them," she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pebble thats Stubby said: from the little I've read she has quit because she is a distration and is sorry for her comments on the video not for the party itslelf. Making her resignation statement through tears, Allegra Stratton said she had become a distraction in the fight against Covid because of her comments in the video. She said the British people had made immense sacrifices and apologised for comments that "seemed to make light of the rules". "I will regret those remarks for the rest of my days and offer my profound apologies to all of you for them," she said. Looks like she's a human shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Pebble thats Stubby said: "I will regret those remarks being caught on camera for the rest of my days and offer my profound apologies to all of you for them," she said. *fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said: He doesnt have allegra to stand on Stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, Pebble thats Stubby said: from the little I've read she has quit because she is a distration and is sorry for her comments on the video not for the party itslelf. If she was really sorry perhaps she could have provided some clarification on what actually happened in her statement rather than completely avoiding the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, Spockydog said: Stop it. Doesn’t have allegra to stratton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Doesn’t have allegra to stratton? I'm warning you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Heartofice said: then surely that means that the party did happen I’ve been listening to the Today problem every morning this week and every day, a different person gets rolled out to take part in the same conversation: ”Was there a party?” ”I didn’t attend, but I understand all rules were adhered to.” ”But parties themselves weren’t allowed, so how could the rules have been adhered to?” ”I wasn’t there, but my understanding is all rules were adhered to.” And round and round. So I don’t think denying it happened was ever part of the plan, the plan was to insist it somehow magically adhered to rules that it couldn’t possibly have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 Hum, I think I have seen this logic somewhere before. I think it was in relation to some court trial in Minnesota, I just can't put my finger on it right now. Nevermind, was probably just me seeing ghosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Doesn’t have allegra to stratton? That's a very serious allegration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 If number ten is going to employ somebody with a name like one of Voldemort’s death eaters then they should expect dark arts to ensue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 6 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: 7 hours ago, Pebble thats Stubby said: "I will regret those remarks being caught on camera for the rest of my days and offer my profound apologies to all of you for them," she said. *fixed. Quote "I will regret those remarks being caught on camera for the rest of my days and am profoundly sorry for anyone to have seen them," she said. fixed some more. Heard one British pundit of unknown stripe on our radio say what a lovely person Stratton is and her real mistake was in agreeing to work for / with Johnson. Might be true, no idea who she was before yesterday so I will defer to the pundit's judgement. But if you didn't know what Johnson is like several years ago then you are very naive and possibly being a spin doctor is the wrong career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 5 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said: fixed some more. Heard one British pundit of unknown stripe on our radio say what a lovely person Stratton is and her real mistake was in agreeing to work for / with Johnson. Might be true, no idea who she was before yesterday so I will defer to the pundit's judgement. But if you didn't know what Johnson is like several years ago then you are very naive and possibly being a spin doctor is the wrong career. Took the time to do a quick read on her wikipedia page. Well she is marriedto a Political Editor at British troll paper, aka Gammon Cosmo, or Gammons' MAD magazine. The Spectator. I know, don't blame people for their spouses. But it's somewhat inconceivable, that they are not on the same page on a lot of those issues. And somehow the word integrity is not particular high on the list of adjectives I'd associate with The Spectator - and the people writing for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 10 hours ago, DaveSumm said: I’ve been listening to the Today problem every morning this week and every day, a different person gets rolled out to take part in the same conversation: ”Was there a party?” ”I didn’t attend, but I understand all rules were adhered to.” ”But parties themselves weren’t allowed, so how could the rules have been adhered to?” ”I wasn’t there, but my understanding is all rules were adhered to.” And round and round. So I don’t think denying it happened was ever part of the plan, the plan was to insist it somehow magically adhered to rules that it couldn’t possibly have done. The line from cabinet ministers at one point was explicitly to deny that there was a party and also say that all the rules were adhered to, which of course on a literal reading makes no sense. The only way to parse that is that they intended to suggest that some kind of event took place but that technically it wasn't a party, which is a pretty awful line to try to hold. (I'm sure Kit Malthouse actually said he didn't even know if there had been a party, but that the rules were followed at all times, which makes even less sense since how can you know the rules were followed if you don't know if they were broken? But that's Kit Malthouse for you.) 8 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said: fixed some more. Heard one British pundit of unknown stripe on our radio say what a lovely person Stratton is and her real mistake was in agreeing to work for / with Johnson. Might be true, no idea who she was before yesterday so I will defer to the pundit's judgement. But if you didn't know what Johnson is like several years ago then you are very naive and possibly being a spin doctor is the wrong career. No, Stratton was always pretty awful. The most high profile example is this famous example of her misrepresenting and badgering a single mother, a story the BBC had to issue a correction and apology for. https://www.indy100.com/news/allegra-stratton-newsnight-benefits-downing-street-b1971892 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 So it will be interesting to know what changed since about Tuesday when they said they definitely didn't need to introduce Plan B. The only thing I can see is... the party! Its hard to see what benefit these measures will have, not just in terms of Covid, but in terms of helping Boris. Back bench tories are already sharpening their knives, the front pages of right wing rags full of 'Boris = Bad' stories. Nobody is fooled by the motivation for this move, so what did they thing they were going to get out of it. But then its very clear that the decision making process in government right now is being run by a random number generator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 What story is the dead cat and what is the live one? I’ve lost track over what scandal is meant to be deflecting from other scandals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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