Mexal Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Sure am glad Bengals took Chase. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, Mexal said: Sure am glad Bengals took Chase. Just saying. Right after the draft he said he was going to break every single Bengals receiving record… he’s backed it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 It's funny in that everyone was right. Burrow has taken a crazy amount of hits and sacks. And gotten injured. Chase has been awesome. Since moving to his natural position sewell has been the 2nd best tackle in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Kalsandra said: It's funny in that everyone was right. Burrow has taken a crazy amount of hits and sacks. And gotten injured. Chase has been awesome. Since moving to his natural position sewell has been the 2nd best tackle in the league. I wouldn’t go that far. He’s been pretty good, but he’s not even the best rookie OT. Let alone 2nd best in the entire league. Rashawn Slater has been even better. And no one has been as good as Trent Willams. Creed Humphrey has been the best rookie offensive lineman overall though. And the Bengals could have had him in the 2nd round. Even after trading back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 It's just what I read on PFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Kalsandra said: It's funny in that everyone was right. Burrow has taken a crazy amount of hits and sacks. And gotten injured. Chase has been awesome. Since moving to his natural position sewell has been the 2nd best tackle in the league. Yea, the players themselves have been awesome. The thing is, Bengals don't win half the games they have this year without Chase. The big issues on the Bengals OL is the interior, Burrow's propensity to hold the ball and Sewell doesn't fix either of those. That being said, they have $65M cap space next year, 5th most in the league and if they don't go out and get some proven OL, I'm going to flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Holy shit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reny of Storms End Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 It feels like my youth is ending tonight. I know there is a lot of genuine dislike, and rightly so, for Big Ben, but he was drafted when I was still in high school! This is a weird feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 42 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Holy shit: I'm not sure if I understand the metric. Is this for when Donald lines up on the edge or just the fact he gets doubled a lot more because he pass rushes from the interior? If it's the latter, then there are other elite-level interior lineman that get doubled at similar rates - and of course that's going to be higher than how much even the best edge rushers are doubled. He still is by far the best interior pass rusher in the game - which is what the y-axis demonstrates - but, well, duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Who throws a shoe? 30 minutes ago, DMC said: I'm not sure if I understand the metric. Is this for when Donald lines up on the edge or just the fact he gets doubled a lot more because he pass rushes from the interior? If it's the latter, then there are other elite-level interior lineman that get doubled at similar rates - and of course that's going to be higher than how much even the best edge rushers are doubled. He still is by far the best interior pass rusher in the game - which is what the y-axis demonstrates - but, well, duh. It's difficult to say without more info, but the point is he has the highest win rate among elite rushers despite him facing a double team two or three times as often as than other rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: the point is he has the highest win rate among elite rushers despite him facing a double team two or three times as often as than other rushers. Right, I'm just saying there's a qualitative difference between the tendency of an interior rusher to get doubled as opposed to an edge rusher because OTs tend to be better pass blockers than interior OLs. The scatterplot is a good depiction for why Donald is still probably the most valuable defensive player, sure, no argument there. Bet Watt or Parsons still win DPOY though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, DMC said: Bet Watt or Parsons still win DPOY though. Just glad no one is saying Diggs anymore. His Int numbers are awesome, but he's also one of the worst DBs in the NFL when not picking the ball off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unJon Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Watt locks it up with a sack next week, tying Strahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceluby Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 7:52 PM, Tywin et al. said: If you want to really understand Madden's influence on the game, just look at all these young coaches going for it way too often on fourth down. One of my friends that I did a math major with did his capstone on the mathematics of 4th down. The TLDR version is that it's almost always a better return to go for it on 4th and short than to punt it unless you are within your own 20 yard line. Between 20 and 35 has a slight edge to go for it, and anything over the 35 yard line it is a pretty significant advantage to the offense. Just like what happened to baseball about 15 years ago, football has finally come around to leveraging analytics to make decisions. I know it was it jest, but Madden doesn't really have anything to do with this trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 hours ago, unJon said: Watt locks it up with a sack next week, tying Strahan. Impressive that Watt has been able to do this despite missing three games this year. Nonetheless it's irritating to me anytime a big record falls only in the 17th game of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 hours ago, aceluby said: One of my friends that I did a math major with did his capstone on the mathematics of 4th down. The TLDR version is that it's almost always a better return to go for it on 4th and short than to punt it unless you are within your own 20 yard line. Between 20 and 35 has a slight edge to go for it, and anything over the 35 yard line it is a pretty significant advantage to the offense. Just like what happened to baseball about 15 years ago, football has finally come around to leveraging analytics to make decisions. I know it was it jest, but Madden doesn't really have anything to do with this trend. I'd say it's 75% jest, 25% possible. It's not a primary driver, but I'd be surprised if the game had no influence on younger coaches. As for the analytics, it's helpful to have those macro numbers, but they can't always override roster, match ups and game situations. Failing to consider that is why a lot of NBA teams are failing to execute the ideal scoring strategy of only layups, FTs and 3's. If you're strong on one side of the ball and above average on the other you can go for it on 4th and 3rd anywhere outside the redzone, but if you're offense or defense are really weak you should probably always punt when you're on your side of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grozeng Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 6:51 PM, Nictarion said: I think Ja'Marr Chase is now my favorite player in the league. This is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 hours ago, aceluby said: Just like what happened to baseball about 15 years ago, football has finally come around to leveraging analytics to make decisions. I know it was it jest, but Madden doesn't really have anything to do with this trend. Yeah it's clearly coaches finally accepting and relying on probabilities and not the video game. On the latter though, while watching the Niners game on Sunday one of the sideline reporters was talking about how Shanahan grew up on Madden and that made him want to be a coach. The reporter noted, though, that Shanahan emphasized actually coaching was entirely different than playing Madden. No shit?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonath Diver Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 So the WFT is announcing their new name/mascot/uniforms on February 2nd. I don't have any connection with the DC area, but of these Quote The team announced Tuesday that it will reveal its new name on Feb. 2, 11 days before the Super Bowl. During a podcast in September with ESPN's Adam Schefter, WFT co-CEO Tanya Snyder confirmed that the final eight candidates were Armada, Presidents, Brigade, Red Hogs, Commanders, RedWolves, Defenders and Football Team. I think the Red Hogs is a pretty hilarious name, and the Armada or Brigade sound appropriately martial, so I assume they'll pick the ridiculously lame Defenders after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Argonath Diver said: So the WFT is announcing their new name/mascot/uniforms on February 2nd. I don't have any connection with the DC area, but of these I think the Red Hogs is a pretty hilarious name, and the Armada or Brigade sound appropriately martial, so I assume they'll pick the ridiculously lame Defenders after all. Wow that is a terrible list of nominees. Keep the Football Team tradition alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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