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Career Chat V: the Common Ruin of the Contending Classes


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2 hours ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

It oddly feels like I'm meant to move into another field, but it's not exactly easy to do after nearly 25 years...

There's always the minor leagues. Just crowd the plate and get on base that way. 

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40 minutes ago, Chataya de Fleury said:

Update on Company B:

They are pissing me off, big time, as they seem to think that their commitments are more important than my commitments for the same. This commitment on both sides is the earnings call  

They want me to interview on 4/25, because their earnings call is on 4/27. WELL, SO IS MINE. (Dates are slightly adjusted so that no one can go out there and find which companies are doing earnings calls on that day and try and figure out names)

Apparently, 4/28 is the date on which they want to give an offer to one of us three candidates. 

So, on Tuesday, we settled on 4/25, and they still won’t give me a time frame. And I have some serious other things that might come up.

I kind of want to tell them to go f—— themselves.

Also, we now have Company C, with which I have a zoom interview tomorrow.

You're already  disgruntled and you haven't even gotten an offer yet.  Maybe just play hardball right back to set the correct parameters in case you end up taking this job.  'I'm excited for this opportunity, but as you all know, this is a one of the key weeks of the year, blah blah' and tell them you can't do the interviews until XX date.  Let them take it or leave it.  If they leave it, good riddance.  If they take it, you've established that they can't screw you around going into the job.  

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17 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

Be the next Julio Franco at my age, eh?

I was thinking more of the next Homer Simpson. HBP can win the game! Oh the life of a Single A tomato can... Imagine the glory. And now they're in the Union! 

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45 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

I was thinking more of the next Homer Simpson. HBP can win the game! Oh the life of a Single A tomato can... Imagine the glory. And now they're in the Union! 

Hmmm...maybe. Let's see if the phone screening interview I just landed for tomorrow goes anywhere first.  
:P

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20 minutes ago, Chataya de Fleury said:

NICE!!!! Great job!!!! Excellent recovery; high five!!

Thanks.  I know it's only an initial screening, but it's for something in my wheelhouse and would potentially get me back doing what I'm best at.

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19 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

Thanks.  I know it's only an initial screening, but it's for something in my wheelhouse and would potentially get me back doing what I'm best at.

Making deals with the Devil?

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Ok - I just chatted at length with a friend who gave good advice, and my kid, more briefly, who thanked me for giving the “10 minute version without the minutiae”.

I will probably need to do a psychological and emotional detox, and this is probably going to take some time. 

I will have to adjust to working in a normal world again. This will have pluses and minuses.  
 

Thank you all for listening :)
 

 

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Best of luck @Jaxom 1974 and @Madame deVenoge

I’m doing pretty well still at my current place.  I’m finally spending less time on my original role, with the team set up to increasingly operate without me, and I’m starting to focus more now on the on-ramp development for my new role.  I declined a role to be the CIO of a spin-off from our firm — it didn’t look like the right set-up for me.

But now I’ve received an approach by another firm.  I’m not on the market at all but this other firm is intriguing because they’re a completely different type of investor in a space I have not experienced before.  Last week was my first interaction with them (over Zoom) and now they want me to meet with their CIO next week.  I’d be the co-lead of the business and the investment offering alongside this CIO.  

I told them I’d regret leaving my current firm before I’ve achieved more (I’m in a senior role at one of the greatest investment firms in the world), but this other firm is also pre-eminent in their own (larger) investment sphere too, so I should at least listen to what kind of role and opportunity would be involved. 

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@Iskaral Pust - NICE!!! Good choice to listen and see what may come!!!

Company C was a GREAT interview!!! The CAO was super nice, super smart, and also knows our Big 4 audit partner :) Big 4 audit partner will give me a glowing reference.

Their corporate office is a 5 minute walk from my house. The dude was not a pretentious prick like certain people with whom I now work. He was also very conversational - none of the bullshit of “where do you see yourself in 5 years” and “tell me about a difficult situation that you resolved”. That is Company B. And they finally sent me a formal agenda, on, yes, their terms. Company B is going to require me calling in sick for the first time in 10 years. :blink:

I honestly thought that Company C would be lowest on my list - this is a surprise dark horse of “f—— yeah, I’m interested.”

I think it speaks well to my ability to learn that I knew NOTHING of the very niche world that I currently inhabit before I started at current company - and now I can tell you that an XS bond held as risk retention will never result in a gain on a monthly basis. Because of prepayments. I can talk about prepayment speeds, net interest margin compression, widening (or tightening!) interest rate spreads, and variable interest entity conclusions resulting from who controls the controlling class of bonds. I now know what the controlling class of bonds is (the XS tranche, with the ability to call the securitization). I know what turbo is as applied to triple A bond tranches. I know what a stacked VIE is and who consolidates it. I told him all of this. I think I can handle understanding a new general ledger account reconciliation system ;)

Can I help a traditional manufacturing company solve 15 material weaknesses? You bet I can. ON IT. 

I got the distinct impression that he is interested, too. I’m being underutilized in my current role because Boy Wonder #1 worked with our boss 15 years ago when Boy Wonder #1 was a staff accountant and Boss was his manager :bang:

SO - onwards, my friends. I shall keep all in the loop.

 

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33 minutes ago, A True Kaniggit said:

I have never called in sick in my life B)
 

(Dumb luck of course. Any time I’ve been sick just happens to start on a Friday)

I had pneumonia for days a couple times. 102 f degree fever and pretty much weak as a kitten, coughing up green gunk.

I probably should have been in the hospital, not just got antibiotics from my dad….

Then there was the dental abscess in 2014 which did land me in the hospital for a week…

 

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