Career Chat V: the Common Ruin of the Contending Classes

[Madame deVenoge]

6 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

I don't know what this means? 

It is where one basically lies to one’s employees that one is sick and cannot work. Policies vary - some people have sick days and vacation days, some people have no sick days but must use vacation if they are sick.

I have unlimited PTO (paid time off) which means there is no stupid counting of days.

That said, I don’t just not show up. I have to call or send an e-mail stating that I am ill and will not be in that day.

[BigFatCoward]

19 minutes ago, Madame deVenoge said:

It is where one basically lies to one’s employees that one is sick and cannot work. Policies vary - some people have sick days and vacation days, some people have no sick days but must use vacation if they are sick.

I have unlimited PTO (paid time off) which means there is no stupid counting of days.

That said, I don’t just not show up. I have to call or send an e-mail stating that I am ill and will not be in that day.

We don't even go to half pay until we have been off sick for 6 months. 

[Tywin et al.]

@Madame deVenoge,

It could always be worse. Imagine working for this dumpster fire. The numbers are staggering:
 

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Ruiz provided guidance that 2022 revenue would approach $1 billion. When the company first reported quarterly earnings, nine months of revenue yielded just $3.9 million after projecting income of $992 million.

Operating losses ended at $118 million.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/nasdaq-threatens-to-delist-crucial-nil-boosters-company

[Madame deVenoge]

3 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

We don't even go to half pay until we have been off sick for 6 months. 

That’s an entirely different animal. Generally, in the US, most professionals or union workers have either sick or vacation days, or a PTO scheme. Those obviously have the employee paid as if they were working full time.

Once that is used up, there is short term disability and then long term disability. In most cases, short term disability is 75% of full pay and long term disability is 66%of full pay.

Obviously, the above is a generality, and let’s please not get involved in a discussion of US vs UK with the typical bashing of the US that often occurs.

Also, I’m considering not calling in sick, just putting work from home in the morning on my calendar and then personal appointment - out of office from 11:30 am - 5:30 pm, and if they question it, I’ll just be ballsy and upfront and tell them that it’s an interview. 

Because they can’t seriously expect with that bonus that they gave me that I would stick around.

Edited April 22 by Madame deVenoge

[Madame deVenoge]

2 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

@Madame deVenoge,

It could always be worse. Imagine working for this dumpster fire. The numbers are staggering:
 

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/nasdaq-threatens-to-delist-crucial-nil-boosters-company

I would have never gotten into that dumpster fire. There’s a lot to unpack, there, but there would have been definite warning signs before All That.

[Tywin et al.]

57 minutes ago, Madame deVenoge said:

I would have never gotten into that dumpster fire. There’s a lot to unpack, there, but there would have been definite warning signs before All That.

Idk how things can ever get that out of hand. It was jaw dropping to read. 

[Starkess]

Applied for 29 jobs this week. I can already tell they're all going to be ghosts or form rejections. Job hunting is The Worst, especially for an introvert who is allergic to networking.

On 4/20/2023 at 11:34 AM, Madame deVenoge said:

@Starkess - I am so sorry. Your best hope is negotiation. They can enforce the contract and they probably have in house counsel. Your best method might be to call and beg for a payment plan and mention how totally unemployed you are

Had a call with them yesterday and they can do a payment plan, as long as it's within this calendar year. Better than nothing. She was also willing to take my request for some relief to her manager, but mentioned that she did not know of that ever having been done in previous cases. She clearly felt bad for me but I understand this is a big org and not something anyone is personally doing to me. Will wait and see. Not much I can do but keep looking for work, taking deep breaths, and crying a lot.

On 4/20/2023 at 12:16 PM, IheartIheartTesla said:

@Starkess are post-docs not an option? Hiring for them tends to be more flexible/informal and doesnt involve a rigorous selection process. Pay is meh (~50-60k), and of course it is more placing careers in holding patterns while you look for something more permanent. Still, you can do some cool science and get the monkey off your back for a bit.

Hm, at least in my field the entire post-doc application thing is quite the process. It has a pretty defined cycle too, which I've missed out on, and would require finding at least three letter writers, when I really only have one. Plus it would require location flexibility, which at the moment I do not have. Especially after this relocation debacle, and we're on a lease, it doesn't make sense to move again right now. So unfortunately, no.

[Madame deVenoge]

25 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Idk how things can ever get that out of hand. It was jaw dropping to read. 

Typically outright fraud.

[Ran]

3 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

@Madame deVenoge,

It could always be worse. Imagine working for this dumpster fire. The numbers are staggering:
 

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/nasdaq-threatens-to-delist-crucial-nil-boosters-company

Quelle surprise, my alma mater's sports programs caught up in this sort of nonsense... again.

Edited April 22 by Ran

[Tywin et al.]

1 hour ago, Ran said:

Quelle surprise, my alma mater's sports programs caught up in this sort of nonsense... again.

Bro, this doesn't even crack the top 500 problems going on in Miami. Not that I need to tell you. 

[dog-days]

2 hours ago, Starkess said:

Applied for 29 jobs this week. I can already tell they're all going to be ghosts or form rejections. Job hunting is The Worst, especially for an introvert who is allergic to networking.

 

Good luck and much sympathy re networking.

How on earth did you manage to write 29 job applications in a week? Mine take me ages, and normally involve responding to a person specification point by point. 

[Starkess]

22 hours ago, dog-days said:

Good luck and much sympathy re networking.

How on earth did you manage to write 29 job applications in a week? Mine take me ages, and normally involve responding to a person specification point by point. 

Most of them are a pretty simple resume upload. I do tailor my resume as needed and write cover letters when possible, but it doesn't take too much time. But that also means there are hundreds of other people doing the same thing....

[dog-days]

27 minutes ago, Starkess said:

Most of them are a pretty simple resume upload. I do tailor my resume as needed and write cover letters when possible, but it doesn't take too much time. But that also means there are hundreds of other people doing the same thing....

There is nothing fun about job applications. They're all just shit in different ways. 

I think one of the big reasons I've only applied to public sector/education-adjacent jobs for the last nine years is that the rigid structure appeals to how my mind works. 

But given your qualifications, you'll stand out amongst the 'send in a CV' hopefuls. Most of them must get eliminated from the process quite fast. 

[Madame deVenoge]

I basically did have to tell the recruiter for Company B that it won’t work out. 

There is no way that I can disappear for 5 hours tomorrow and not get fired.

I just got updated numbers last night at 9:30 pm. I literally have a day to get this stuff done, but realistically, it might be a bit more than that. Which means I would likely be getting fired anyways if I weren’t about to quit, but it won’t be as immediate.

[Cas Stark]

On 4/22/2023 at 12:32 PM, Madame deVenoge said:

That’s an entirely different animal. Generally, in the US, most professionals or union workers have either sick or vacation days, or a PTO scheme. Those obviously have the employee paid as if they were working full time.

Once that is used up, there is short term disability and then long term disability. In most cases, short term disability is 75% of full pay and long term disability is 66%of full pay.

Obviously, the above is a generality, and let’s please not get involved in a discussion of US vs UK with the typical bashing of the US that often occurs.

Also, I’m considering not calling in sick, just putting work from home in the morning on my calendar and then personal appointment - out of office from 11:30 am - 5:30 pm, and if they question it, I’ll just be ballsy and upfront and tell them that it’s an interview. 

Because they can’t seriously expect with that bonus that they gave me that I would stick around.

That won't help you in the long run.  You can unload on them AFTER you've gotten a new job.

[Madame deVenoge]

On 4/24/2023 at 10:07 AM, Cas Stark said:

That won't help you in the long run.  You can unload on them AFTER you've gotten a new job.

True. I’m probably far too candid; it’s something that some people love and other people find…odd.

I did a “phone a friend” earlier to vent some frustrations. That was helpful.

[Jaxom 1974]

Whelp...Indeed just sent me an automated, "Your experience at...could make you a good fit for my job..." from the man who let me go for the job he let me go from just last week...so the job search has gotten surreal in just one week...

[mcbigski]

On 4/22/2023 at 4:32 PM, Tywin et al. said:

Bro, this doesn't even crack the top 500 problems going on in Miami. Not that I need to tell you. 

The Dolphins will be fine.  Stop trolling Ran, he has a far larger hammer.

[Madame deVenoge]

2 hours ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

Whelp...Indeed just sent me an automated, "Your experience at...could make you a good fit for my job..." from the man who let me go for the job he let me go from just last week...so the job search has gotten surreal in just one week...

Yikes!!!! The job search sucks, in so many ways. That seems like a knife in the side, though.

[Tywin et al.]

13 minutes ago, Madame deVenoge said:

Yikes!!!! The job search sucks, in so many ways. That seems like a knife in the side, though.

Job hunting is horrible these days. I'm seeing some things I could do half asleep, but most of the gigs want you to have a masters degree and ten years experience to do things I'd expect most recent college grads could do. And the pay is usually shit too.

We're all getting hustled to some extent. It shouldn't be this way.

Edited April 26 by Tywin et al.