A Horse Named Stranger Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Madame deVenoge said: This is a huge, huge firm. In the accounting world, no one is re-naming PwC no matter how high up you get. Didn't know she was working for those folks. I assumed she was working for some fancy Law firm specialized in tax law. Edit: But Zabz waterhorse & cooper has a certain charm to it. Give it a few scandals like the one in Australia, and it might become an option. Edited June 15 by A Horse Named Stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame deVenoge Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 15 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Didn't know she was working for those folks. I assumed she was working for some fancy Law firm specialized in tax law. Edit: But Zabz waterhorse & cooper has a certain charm to it. Give it a few scandals like the one in Australia, and it might become an option. She’s not, but I thought I was pretty clear with my statement as being an analogy. I’m not even going to name a large law firm that she doesn’t work for, because process of elimination could possibly apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 3 minutes ago, Madame deVenoge said: She’s not, but I thought I was pretty clear with my statement as being an analogy. I’m not even going to name a large law firm that she doesn’t work for, because process of elimination could possibly apply. Yeah, but what do I know of fancy US tax law firms. Either way, tax law firms sounds like the proper sorta company waiting for a huge scandal. Or opportunity to get her name on the company during the next renaming process. Madame deVenoge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame deVenoge Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Yeah, but what do I know of fancy US tax law firms. Either way, tax law firms sounds like the proper sorta company waiting for a huge scandal. Or opportunity to get her name on the company during the next renaming process. They do a lot more than tax law. They do securities law (the people with whom I interact), litigation (the people with whom I hope not to interact), etc. Every large law firm is like that. ETA - also, to get back to the “Big 4” accounting firms for a bit, they are also not all tax. Audit is the largest group and the bread and butter for those forms, while advisory generally is the most lucrative part. And then, there’s tax. Edited June 16 by Madame deVenoge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Sooooo...what's the right way to politely decline someone seeking you out for an intriguing position, but it pays roughly 25k less than where you were two months ago, let alone need to be...but oh, looking at their website there is possibly a job you'd rather have instead, if you were going to take that kind of pay cut...? (I can't/won't take that kind of pay cut, but don't want to come off wrong...this isn't that big of a city when all is said and done...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 15 hours ago, Mlle. Zabzie said: CONGRATULATIONS! That sounds amazing, and wishing you the very best of luck. I got a pretty decent size promotion yesterday. It does not (currently) come with more money. It does come with a lot more work, a lot more responsibility, and a lot more visibility. I somewhat idiotically said yes. But what else was I going to say - chairman called me directly.... Congratulations! Always good to be recognized and in demand. But I know the experience of promotions that expand your title and responsibilities but not your immediate finances (though they usually bring more long term comp over time, e.g. stock grants). There is a stage in a good career when further comp increases don’t matter much so you can just focus on being in the role you enjoy the most, including the scope, challenge, colleagues, impact, etc. You’ve just climbed to the top of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Madame deVenoge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 10 hours ago, Jaxom 1974 said: Sooooo...what's the right way to politely decline someone seeking you out for an intriguing position, but it pays roughly 25k less than where you were two months ago, let alone need to be...but oh, looking at their website there is possibly a job you'd rather have instead, if you were going to take that kind of pay cut...? (I can't/won't take that kind of pay cut, but don't want to come off wrong...this isn't that big of a city when all is said and done...) “I’d love to work for your firm and I see a strong mutual fit here. But I have in mind a role closer in level to XX job that you have posted, and other firms agree. Can we get agreement on the right level for me to contribute here?” That’s a pretty easy topic to raise. It would be tougher if they didn’t have (or have available) the level you want and you’re asking them to make a big exception to their structure to accommodate you. They may resist the higher level and comp for you but then you’re just in a positive discussion about how much value you can bring and how to structure the comp for that. You already know they think highly of you. If they only like you at a too-low comp then they’re bargain hunting. Set a realistic price for your value and tell them that “regretfully, I may have to pass if other firms can see a higher value role for me to contribute.” I don’t think I’ve ever battled over comp but I have spoken up a few times to say I would have to be realistic if I can deliver more value in another firm’s business model. Madame deVenoge and Jaxom 1974 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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