if you could ask GRRM one question related to asoiaf what would it be?

[Megorova]

On 12/30/2021 at 9:21 AM, Corvo the Crow said:

The Daynes. Why does Edric “Ned” Dayne shares a nickname with Eddard “Ned” Stark?

Because Edric is a son of Ashara Dayne/Jyana Reed and Howland Reed. His parents sent him away from the Neck, because he was born with blond hair and blue eyes, he looked too much not like one of the Cranogmen. And because Ashara is in hiding, they couldn't have kept the boy with them. Lyanna and Ashara gave birth to their children at approximately the same time, Ashara a bit earlier. So Wylla originally was supposed to be Meera's wet-nurse. Though after Lyanna's death, she became Jon's wet-nurse and went with him to Winterfell. Several years later, when Ashara gave birth to Edric, they summoned Wylla from Winterfell, they gave Edric to her and sent them both to Starfall.

So Edric's nickname is Ned, because his father - Howland Reed, named him after his best friend - Eddard/Ned Stark.

On 12/31/2021 at 4:00 AM, Aebram said:

In particular, I'm curious about Archmaester Marwyn.  He doesn't appear on the page until the end of AFFC;

Actually first time he appeared on pages was in AGOT, Dany IX. This is him:

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Ser Jorah's face was drawn and sorrowful. "Rhaegar was the last dragon," he told her. He warmed translucent hands over a glowing brazier where stone eggs smouldered red as coals. One moment he was there and the next he was fading, his flesh colorless, less substantial than the wind. "The last dragon," he whispered, thin as a wisp, and was gone.

He was using glass candle to astral project into Khal Drogo's tent, when Dany was giving birth to Rhaego. Marwyn was assisting Dany together with Mirri Maz Duur during Rhaego's birth. In the past at Asshai both him and Mirri were apprentices of shadowbinder Quaithe/Shiera Seastar. So he was involved with the Targaryens long before the beginning of AGOT. He was also assisting Lyanna during Jon's birth, Queen Rhaella during Dany's birth, and Elia during Aegon's birth.

[FictionIsntReal]

On 12/31/2021 at 3:17 PM, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said:

1) What does the Master of Laws actually do outside of advising the king?

That's a good one which really should have been explained a long time ago.

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which king did Grand Maester Hareth betray?

Great minds think alike!

On 12/31/2021 at 6:24 PM, Megorova said:

I would have asked him to explain to me motivations of main factions in ASOIAF - what those characters want?

Shiera Seastar

Not a "main faction" in ASoIaF. She hasn't appeared in the main series.

[Jaenara Belarys]

On 12/31/2021 at 1:45 PM, LynnS said:

Give us the Precious!

MAHHHH PRECIOUSSSSS!!!

[Kinola]

Can people write stories for ASOIAF? Star Wars does the same thing, so why not this?

[EggBlue]

39 minutes ago, Kinola said:

Can people write stories for ASOIAF? Star Wars does the same thing, so why not this?

perhaps since the last time some people wrote something to add to ASOIAF universe it turned out to be a certain TV show ! 

in all seriousness now, maybe it should be finished for its universe to be fully understood first.

[Corvo the Crow]

18 hours ago, Megorova said:

Because Edric is a son of Ashara Dayne/Jyana Reed and Howland Reed. His parents sent him away from the Neck, because he was born with blond hair and blue eyes, he looked too much not like one of the Cranogmen. And because Ashara is in hiding, they couldn't have kept the boy with them.

And somehow they could have kept Ashara because she looks like an ordinary crannogmen with her haunting violet eyes and being tall? Blonds with blue eyes aren't a rarity in the North, they are much more common than violet eyed brunettes. Oh and not to mention the fact that if that were the case, Meera would know, because she would be 4 years at the time, old enough to take notice of the brother that was born and then disappeared.

By the way, if in hiding, how did she even get to the Neck in the first place? You don't fake your death then travel months of distance without anyone ever noticing those haunting violet eyes, eyes that still haunt anyone who has ever laid eyes on them even a decade and a half after her, by your fanfic, faked death. Catelyn's travel from KL to North should be proof of that. Riverlanders, including many knights and household soldiers, failed to recognize their lord's daughter with her Tully features, auburn hair and blue eyes, so although not common, these aren't that rare traits either but Tyrion who has seen her some months back immediately recognized her. Ashara, on the other hand, would be noticed by both those who have seen her and those who have never ever laid eyes upon her because of her haunting violet eyes.

Ashara being Septa Lemore makes way more sense than her being Jyana simply because in the eyes of Essosi, she would be just another westerosi that came to Essos. They would notice her as a tall and fair one, yes, even be haunted by those violet eyes, but would have no information to associate her with Ashara, because you know why? They wouldn't even know who Ashara is in the first place. Oh and just to be clear, I'm not saying Ashara is Lemore, because if that were the case Tyrion would have recognized her or at least would take note of her eyes since I doubt he has seen many people with such eyes. 

 

 

[Corvo the Crow]

9 hours ago, EggBlue said:

perhaps since the last time some people wrote something to add to ASOIAF universe it turned out to be a certain TV show ! 

Old gods no, please no! NW should guard  the realms of men from such abominations. There hasn't been enough generations to think that such horrors only exist in children's tales.

[Jaenara Belarys]

13 hours ago, EggBlue said:

perhaps since the last time some people wrote something to add to ASOIAF universe it turned out to be a certain TV show ! 

 

[Lord Lannister]

Here are some serious questions.

Thick Pink Mast. WHY?!

Myrish Swamp. WHHHHYYY?!!!!

[Megorova]

17 hours ago, FictionIsntReal said:

On 1/1/2022 at 2:24 AM, Megorova said:

I would have asked him to explain to me motivations of main factions in ASOIAF - what those characters want?

Shiera Seastar

Not a "main faction" in ASoIaF. She hasn't appeared in the main series.

She has. Multiple times, under various guises and various aliases. She's a central figure in ASOIAF, and the most prolific shadow-puppeteer and mastermind amongst all of the ASOIAF's characters.

She is shadowbinder Quaithe and the Three-Eyed Crow.

Also in the past, while living at Asshai, she was maester Marwyn's and Mirri Maz Duur's teacher.

And while at Qarth, she also used to be Euron Greyjoy's teacher. From her he learned how to ignite and use Valyrian glass candles, and at Qarth he was using an alias - Urrathon Nightwalker. Him and Shiera thru his dark eye are bonded with blood magic, so she can see whatever he sees with that eye. So he is the third eye of the Three-Eyed Crow, that's why his nickname is the Crow's Eye. That's why now he keeps his dark eye covered, because he betrayed Shiera, and using the knowledge that he gained from her, he wants to become the new god.

It's likely that Shiera also was the one who lured Bloodraven beyond The Wall and binded him to a magical tree (it's a parallel to what happened in the Arthurian legends between Merlin and the Lady of the Lake).

Also she is a cat-skinchanger, and she skinchanged into that shadowcat, that attacked Mance Rayder near the Shadow Tower, when he still was in the Night's Watch. Then she shadow-glamoured herself to look like a wildling, pretended to be a daughter of the healer, and while she was treating Mance from his wounds (that she herself had inflicted on him thru her shadowcat-vessel), she bewitched him and caused him to desert from Night's Watch and to go to the wildlings to unite them into a single tribe, and that way to create an army that she will give to the Promised Prince, to fight against the Others during the Second Long Night. The red silk from Asshai, with three strips of which she patched Mance's cloak, in the past belonged to her maternal grandmother - Johanna Swann the Black Swan of Lys and Larra Rogare's mother (both Johanna and Larra/Serenei of Lys also were cat-skinchangers, same as Shiera).

From Braavos she traveled on the same ship as Sam and maester Aemon (actually she boarded that ship at Qarth, and then went on it to Braavos and then to Westeros), and prior the arrival of that ship to Oldtown, switched ships and continued her journey on board of the Huntress - a war galley in service to House Hightower. The Hightowers are Shiera's agents, apparently the Mad Maid - Malora Hightower, is one of Shiera's apprentices.

The wildling witch Morna, who is currently stationed at the Long Barrow - one of the Night's Watch castles, is also one of Shiera's disciples. She was learning magic from Shiera in that period of time, when Shiera lived beyond The Wall, after she binded Bloodraven to a tree, and before she freed Mance Rayder from the Night's Watch, before she went to Essos (to Asshai, and then to Qarth).

Also in 281 AC, when Barristan Selmy fought against the Kingswood Brotherhood, and saved from them Lady Jeyne Swann and her septa, that septa was Shiera in shadow-glamour. She provided Jeyne with love potion, and using it Jeyne had sex with Barristan and conceived fAegon. Jeyne Swann now is Septa Lemore.

And Shiera is the reason why Old Nan is saying that all crows are liars. Apparently the reason why Nan and Duncan the Tall didn't married, despite Nan giving birth to Dunk's twin-children (the son was Hodor's paternal grandfather, and the daughter was a maternal grandmother of Meris Cafferen/Wenda the White Fawn/Pretty Meris from Windblown sellsword company - Brienne Tarth' mother), is somehow connected to the Three-Eyed Crow/Shiera - she said or did something because of which Dunk left Winterfell and was separated with Nan/Alysanne Stark, whose family then hastily married her off to Franklyn Frey - Walder Frey's paternal uncle.

Shiera was also assisting Dany during Rhaego's birth, and in her fevered dreams she appeared as the ghosts in red-black clothes of the Targaryen kings, with swords of pale fire in their hands - Valyrian glass candle, and green-blue eyes colored like jade, tourmaline, opal and amethyst, which are blue and green and blue-green gemstones.

And she appeared in Dany's last chapter in ADWD, as smiling and whispering stars (same as in Dany's fevered dreams in AGOT), when she again was using a glass candle to see what Dany was doing. That's when Dany saw that Quaithe's mask is made of starlight, which is a hint that Quaithe is Shiera Seastar.

Shiera's latest appearance was in the sample chapter of TWOW, Aeron I - "He seemed more squid than man, a monster fathered by a kraken of the deep, his face a mass of writhing tentacles. Beside him stood a shadow in woman’s form, long and tall and terrible, her hands alive with pale white fire." <- she wasn't actually there with Euron. That shadow in a woman's form was actually Shiera's astral projection. She was using glass candle to spy after Euron. And Aerion saw her in his prophetic dream, caused by him drinking the shade-of-the-evening.

And maybe there are several other times, which I didn't noticed yet, when Shiera appeared in the books.

4 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said:

And somehow they could have kept Ashara because she looks like an ordinary crannogmen with her haunting violet eyes and being tall?

4 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said:

Ashara, on the other hand, would be noticed by both those who have seen her and those who have never ever laid eyes upon her because of her haunting violet eyes.

It's only an assumption that Ashara Dayne still has violet eyes, because let's not forget that - they live in a world, where human eyes can change color.

When Howland brought Ashara to the Neck and introduced her to his people as his wife, if at that time her eyes were violet, he could have told them that she is from the Isle of Faces, that she is one of the Green Men, and that her eyes are violet because she's a greendreamer (and because she is a descendant of Rhaena Targaryen, it's likely that she did sometimes had prophetic visions, which would have helped her to pose as a greendreamer).

The Children are born mostly with golden eyes, but sometimes some of them are born with green or red eyes, and those of them that are not golden-eyed, are given weirwood seed paste, become wedded to a tree (same as what Shiera did to Bloodraven) and become greenseers. Jojen since his birth used to have a different color of eyes than he has now, they became green only after he had a near-death experience. Who knows - maybe when Ashara was giving birth to Meera, she could have also nearly died, and afterwards her eyes became green.

If the greendreaming Children can have not only green, but also RED eyes, then it wouldn't have been a problem for Howland to convince his people, that his violet-eyed wife is a "greendreamer". Or maybe her eyes were green, when she came to the Neck.

Eitherway, whether her eyes were violet or green, she and Howland could have said to the Crannogmen that her eyes became that color when she became a greendreamer. Though they couldn't have made the same lie concerning Edric, because he was born not only with blue eyes, but also with blond hair. Many children are born blond and blue-eyed, and several days after their birth, or when they are several years old, their hair become darker, and their eyes become not blue.

Though it's likely that, when Edric and Jojen were born (they are twin-brothers), it was apparent from the very beginning that Jojen has his father's Crannogmen looks, while Edric looks like his Targaryen ancestors (with Dyanna Dayne and her siblings being grandchildren of Rhaena Targaryen and Garmund Hightower, thru one of their six daughters, who married with a Dayne). So because Howland and Jyana couldn't have made a convincing explanation for Edric's looks, they decided to send him away.

So it's likely that they didn't even told to anyone that Jyana gave birth to two boys, not just one, and they didn't showed the second baby to anyone. They just pretended that Jyana is ill, after she gave birth to her child. So she and both boys were kept hidden in her room. And Meera at that time was sent to stay with her relatives, while her mother was supposedly recuperating after stenuous childbirth, but actually while they were figuring out what to do with the second baby. So Meera is unaware that she has two brothers, not one.

I think that Howland and Jyana/Ashara anticipated the possibility that her children could be born with looks not typical for Crannogmen, that they could look like Targaryens. Thus, when Jyana was giving birth, it was either Howland himself, who was assisting during childbirth, or they invited someone to whom they trusted. For example - maester Marwyn, who a few years ago at Starfall was assisting Lyanna during Jon's birth.

Also, when Ashara got pregnant, just in case if her child/children will be born with non-Crannogmen looks, she contacted her parent at Starfall (whoever then was the Head of House Dayne). Ashara's parents knew all along that Ashara didn't commited suicide, that she went with Howland Reed to the Neck. It was Ashara's parents, who after her departure, told everyone that she supposedly killed herlself. And when she wrote in a letter that she's pregnant, and maybe will need their help, Ashara's parents announced to their people that their Lady is pregnant, and then for months the wife was stuffing a pillow under her clothes to simulate pregnancy. If Ashara's child/children was born with Crannogmen looks, then the Lady-Dayne could have said that either she had a miscarriage, or that her baby was stillborn. And if Ashara's child/children were born looking not like Crannogmen, then for this case they have beforehand arranged the child/children's transportation to Dorne, to the Lady-Dayne.

Also they beforehand summoned Wylla from Winterfell, because Jon at that time already didn't needed a wet-nurse. So Wylla arrived to the Neck before Jojen and Edric's birth. And then on the ship sailed with baby-Edric to Dorne. And they lied about his age, because actually he was born several months prior to his official date of birth. Actually he was born in 286, same as Jojen, not in 287.

Or maybe the Reeds didn't anticipated that their children could be born with non-Crannogmen looks, so when one of their boys was born dark-eyed and dark-haired and the other was born blond and blue-eyed, they didn't knew what to do, and it took them some time to came up with the plan what to do with Edric. Eitherway aside from Howland, Juyana, Wylla, maybe maester Marwyn, and Ashara's parents nobody knowns that Edric isn't a child of Lord and Lady Daynes, that he is actually a child of Howland Reed and Ashara/Jyana.

The exact details and logistics are irrelevant. I'm just saying that to arrange that sort of cuckoo-switch is possible.

So the Daynes posed Edric as the child of the ruling Lord/or Lady of Starfall, while actually he is Ashara's child, and Jojen's twin-brother. And the twins not always look alike.

Ashara's violet eyes were somehow explained to Howland's people. Though whatever that explanation was in case with Jyana, the same explanation wouldn't have cutted it in case with Edric. Furthermore, Edric looking like he did, most likely would have ruined whatever "legend" Howland made up for Jyana. Thus Edric had to be sent away, not to ruin Jyana's "cover".

If Jyana's eyes were violet, then Howland told to his people that she is one of the Green Men, and that she's a greendreamer. If there could be greendreamers with red eyes, then there also could be greendreamers with violet eyes. Because - why not? And if Ashara went thru near-death experience, while giving birth to Meera, could be that afterwards her eyes became green. Which is not such a rare color like violet. Thus, in this case, there was no need no create some cover-up story, to explain Jyana's looks to Howland's people.

The exact details how this or that was done, are irrelevant. GRRM could have written dozens of different scenarios to make this happen. My point is - I think that Jyana Reed is Ashara Dayne, and that Edric Ned Dayne is atually her and Howland's son and Jojen's twin-brother, and what exactly GRRM wrote to make that happen, is not my problem.

Maybe the exact logistics will never be explained to the readers, same as GRRM didn't wrote an exact and detailed explanation how Willem Darry managed to steal Dany and Viserys from Dragonstone, who was his other companions, who was the wet-nurse, where did he took the ship, why he brought them out of all places specifically to Braavos, etc.

4 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said:

By the way, if in hiding, how did she even get to the Neck in the first place?

On the same ship (Dayne-ship) on which Howland went from Starfall to Storm's End, then with Ned went from Storm's End to Starfall, then from Starfall to the Tower of Joy (then maybe again back to Starfall).

On this ship Ned, baby-Jon, wet-nurse Wylla, Lyanna's body, Howland, Ashara and newborn Meera went at first to King's Landing, and then to the Neck, and then to Winterfell.

Ashara and Howland didn't went off board at KL, they were staying at the ship, same as Wylla and Jon. Then Ned dropped the Reeds at the Neck, and kept sailing north, up the White Knife, and then by cart (for Wylla and the baby) to Winterfell.

Aside from Howland, other Crannogmen didn't went to the tournament at Harrenhal. So none of them saw there Ashara, and didn't even knew about her existence. Because it's not like she was some sort of celebrity, and there was no fashion journals, or TVs, or Internet at that time, so Ashara was basically a no one. She was just one of Princess Elia's ladies-in-waiting, and it's likely that none of the Crannogmen ever saw Elia, or King Aerys, or any of Elia's maids, Ashara included.

Ashara, who was a teen at that time, just recently joined Targaryen court. She became dishonored at Harrenhal, and thus afterwards was evicted from Elia's entorage and went back home to Starfall. And it's not like people at Harrenhal were photographing her with their cellphones, and sending her picture to their friends. So all the people outside of Starfall, and Elia's entorage, and Targaryen court, and those who were present at that tournament at Harrenhal, never saw Ashara before or after, and never anywhere even heard her name.

Also, mind that Ashara is not so memorable as to be remembered by people for years after her supposed death. Barristan Selmy is an exception, he's the only one who thinks that her violet eyes were haunting. Though, the thing is, at the time of the Harrenhal's tournament, he was still slightly under the influence of the love potion, that Jeyne Swann and Shiera Seastar tricked him into drinking, for Jeyne to have a child with Barri. So he became so enamored with Ashara, merely because he was still intoxicated with love potion.

4 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said:

Ashara being Septa Lemore makes way more sense than her being Jyana

Jyana is Ashara, and Septa Lemore is Lady Jeyne Swann.

There is a highly likely possibility that Lemore does have violet eyes, despite her being not Ashara.

Barristan fell in love with Ashara, because after his encounter with the Kingswood Brotherhood

(which had occured in late March-beginning of April of 281 AC, months prior to the tournament at Harrenhal, which was held in the end of October-beginning of November (for 10 days, with the day of the mystery knight's appearance occurring on the Halloween)),

he was haunted by erotic dreams, in which he had sex with a woman that had violet eyes. Those dreams were actually a reflection of what happened to him on April 1st of 281 AC, when Jeyne Swann slipped him love potion, and then raped him. Which was the only occurrence in Barri's life, when he had sex (him being a diligent Kingsguard and all that).

Love potion is not some magical substance, that makes people to fall in love. Instead it's a medieval version of Rohypnol - a date rape drug and a hypnotic, that causes confusion and anterograde amnesia - the inability to create memories while under the influence.

Jeyne Westerling used love potion on Robb Stark, raped him and that way tricked him into marrying with her. Because he didn't remembered afterwards that he wasn't the one who instigated them having sex, and that at that time he wasn't even fully consciousness, when she was using him. Jenny of Oldstones used love potion on Prince Duncan Targaryen, and that way tricked him into marrying with her, while he was drugged. Princess Rhae once tried to use love potion on her brother Aegon V, to trick him into marrying with her, and not with their sister Daella. Rohanne Webber-Lannister used love potion on Duncan the Tall, to have his child - Jenny of Oldstones. Jenny's woodswitch, the Ghost of Hight Heart, is her mother - the Red Widow Rohanne Webber, and she was the one who provided Jenny with potion to get Duncan.

The Westerling-girl got the potion from her mother - Sybell Spicer, who was a granddaughter of Maggy the Frog. Maggy was a fortune teller, who dealt in cures and love potions. Both Princess Rhae and Jeyne Swann were provided with love potion by Shiera Seastar. During Barristan's encounter with the Kingswood Brotherhood, Shiera was shadow-glamoured, and was posing as Jeyne's septa. Afterwards Jeyne/Lemore gave birth to fAegon, and herself began posing as a septa, to stay with her son and to be able to raise him.

The members of House Swann had appeared in 8 of GRRM's books - The Hedge Knight, TWOIAF, Fire & Blood Volume 1, AGOT, ACOK, ASOS, AFFC, ADWD. But we still don't know what are the typical colorations for the members of their House. Balon Swann is one of the Kingsguards, and he appeared in all five of ASOIAF books, and he's the only KG, whose coloration GRRM didn't revealed.

Arys Oakheart had light-brown hair and comely face. Barristan has pale blue eyes, and when he was young his hair was blond. Mandon Moore had pale grey eyes. Sandor Clegane has dark hair and grey eyes. Loras Tyrell is brown-haired and brown-eyed. Meryn Trant has droopy eyes and a red beard. Boros Blount has grey hair. Osmund Kettleblack has brown and black hair. Though there's no information about what is Balon's hair or eye color. Mandon Moore appeared only in two books, and was mentioned in one more, already after his death. And Balon Swann appeared in all five of ASOIAF books, but we still don't know his coloring. That's because GRRM on purpose held back this information. Maybe Balon has the same violet eyes as his apparently sister, or some sort of cousin - Lady Jeyne Swann/Septa Lemore.

So both Ashara and Jeyne have violet eyes and brown hair. And GRRM didn't revealed the color of Lemore's eyes, because he didn't wanted the readers to afterwards keep asking him whether Lemore is Ashara, because Lemore's eyes are violet, same as Ashara's. He wouldn't have wanted to say that, despite Lemore having violet eyes, she is not Ashara Dayne. He wouldn't have wanted to give them too many clues. Thus far they are content with their assumptions that Lemore is either Ashara, or Elia, or even Lyanna, or Mellario of Norvos.

[Jaenara Belarys]

24 minutes ago, Lord Lannister said:

Thick Pink Mast. WHY?!

Myrish Swamp. WHHHHYYY?!!!!

Thick Pink Mast, a beautiful achievement for Samwell Tarly. 

Myrish Swamp........showing Cersei's depravity? 

 

@Willam Stark , above this. 

[Lord Lannister]

21 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said:

Thick Pink Mast, a beautiful achievement for Samwell Tarly. 

Myrish Swamp........showing Cersei's depravity? 

 

@Willam Stark , above this. 

It's not what you say, it's how you say it! You see this a lot with non-erotica authors trying to write sex scenes tastefully that just end up being utterly cringe in their phrasing. 

[Corvo the Crow]

3 hours ago, Megorova said:

It's only an assumption that Ashara Dayne still has violet eyes, because let's not forget that - they live in a world, where human eyes can change color.

What? Who? Text evidence please and not mistakes like Renly's color or the like.

 

So much fanfic I won't even try to respond to the rest but will only say this, Ashara traveled with a ship and the crew didn't talk about it? OK! Guess Euron Greyjoy was the first ever travel agent in Planetos with longboats for hire, crew included!

[Megorova]

24 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said:

Ashara traveled with a ship and the crew didn't talk about it?

Not if the ship originally was the ship of the Daynes. In which case the crew was loyal to Ashara and to Howland, who was her husband. And afterwards they also didn't spilled the beans, same as the crew from Illyrio's ship didn't revealed to the Lannisters that they were transporting Tyrion to Pentos on their ship. Not all retailers are gossipers and traitors. Some of them do keep secrets of their masters and are loyal to them.

24 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said:

What? Who? Text evidence please and not mistakes like Renly's color or the like.

1.

"Euron is pale and handsome with black hair and a dark beard. He wears a patch over his left eye, and is nicknamed Crow's Eye. According to Euron's nephew, Theon Greyjoy, the patch conceals a "black eye shining with malice".^[8] His right eye is as blue as summer sky and is regarded as his "smiling eye". "

In my opinion Euron was born with two blue eyes, and his left eye became black only after he became the Crow's Eye - when him and the Three-Eyed Crow got binded thru that eye with blood-magic, which allowed Shiera/3EC to see thru Euron's eye.

2. Wights. Blue.

3. Fire wights. Lady Stoneheart - Her eyes look like two red pits, burning in the shadows.

 

Natural/original eye color + magic = change of color. No?

[Falcon2909]

7 hours ago, Lord Lannister said:

Here are some serious questions.

Thick Pink Mast. WHY?!

Myrish Swamp. WHHHHYYY?!!!!

GRRM trying to make these scenes look hot but failed to by using these terms.

also i think fat pink mast was supposed to show its an awkward scene as its sams first time having sex

[Nathan Stark]

16 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said:

And somehow they could have kept Ashara because she looks like an ordinary crannogmen with her haunting violet eyes and being tall? Blonds with blue eyes aren't a rarity in the North, they are much more common than violet eyed brunettes. Oh and not to mention the fact that if that were the case, Meera would know, because she would be 4 years at the time, old enough to take notice of the brother that was born and then disappeared.

By the way, if in hiding, how did she even get to the Neck in the first place? You don't fake your death then travel months of distance without anyone ever noticing those haunting violet eyes, eyes that still haunt anyone who has ever laid eyes on them even a decade and a half after her, by your fanfic, faked death. Catelyn's travel from KL to North should be proof of that. Riverlanders, including many knights and household soldiers, failed to recognize their lord's daughter with her Tully features, auburn hair and blue eyes, so although not common, these aren't that rare traits either but Tyrion who has seen her some months back immediately recognized her. Ashara, on the other hand, would be noticed by both those who have seen her and those who have never ever laid eyes upon her because of her haunting violet eyes.

Ashara being Septa Lemore makes way more sense than her being Jyana simply because in the eyes of Essosi, she would be just another westerosi that came to Essos. They would notice her as a tall and fair one, yes, even be haunted by those violet eyes, but would have no information to associate her with Ashara, because you know why? They wouldn't even know who Ashara is in the first place. Oh and just to be clear, I'm not saying Ashara is Lemore, because if that were the case Tyrion would have recognized her or at least would take note of her eyes since I doubt he has seen many people with such eyes. 

 

 

A few points. First, Edric Dayne is definately not a son of Ashara's, and he is not from the Neck, agreed. But, you are putting way too much stock in Ashara's "haunting" purple eyes. Her eyes are "haunting" to people like Catelyn and Barristan because they are projecting their own feelings of nostalgia and loss onto Ashara. Interestingly, when Meera tells Bran the story of the KotLT, she describes Ashara as "the maid with the laughing purple eyes." Either Meera doesn't know Ashara and doesn't project any nostalgia onto her, or Meera does know of Ashara and associates her with laughter and merriment. Either way, when it comes to description of Ashara, we are dependent on unreliable narrators, so her having "haunting eyes" is not something to be taken at face value.

The Neck is also heavily isolated, and Greywater Watch notoriously difficult to pin down. The idea that Ashara could be there is not 100% impossible. She's just one woman. Getting her to the Neck would be difficult, but I don't think it is absolutely insurmountable. I don't think she is there, mind you. I just don't discount the possibility entirely.

[Corvo the Crow]

46 minutes ago, Nathan Stark said:

Meera tells Bran the story of the KotLT, she describes Ashara as "the maid with the laughing purple eyes." Either Meera doesn't know Ashara and doesn't project any nostalgia onto her, or Meera does know of Ashara and associates her with laughter and merriment. Either way, when it comes to description of Ashara, we are dependent on unreliable narrators, so her having "haunting eyes" is not something to be taken at face value.

Laughing or haunting, those violet eyes are remarkable simply by beniyle violet, at least in Westeros. Someone in Essos may see her and don’t even give a second look, eyes like that are common there, though maybe not seen on brunettes so she would still be somewhat noticeable, but not as much as in Westeros. 

 

8 hours ago, Megorova said:

In my opinion Euron was born with two blue eyes, and his left eye became black only after he became the Crow's Eye - when him and the Three-Eyed Crow got binded thru that eye with blood-magic, which allowed Shiera/3EC to see thru Euron's eye.

Sorry but your fanfic is no evidence

 

8 hours ago, Megorova said:

Wights. Blue.

3. Fire wights. Lady Stoneheart - Her eyes look like two red pits, burning in the shadows.

 

 

1. These characters are dead and reanimated, magic involved.

2. No change to green.

8 hours ago, Megorova said:

Not if the ship originally was the ship of the Daynes. In which case the crew was loyal to Ashara and to Howland, who was her husband.

A loyal household…

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That cut deep. Ned would not speak of the mother, not so much as a word, but a castle has no secrets, and Catelyn heard her maids repeating tales they heard from the lips of her husband's soldiers. They whispered of Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, deadliest of the seven knights of Aerys's Kingsguard, and of how their young lord had slain him in single combat. And they told how afterward Ned had carried Ser Arthur's sword back to the beautiful young sister who awaited him in a castle called Starfall on the shores of the Summer Sea. The Lady Ashara Dayne, tall and fair, with haunting violet eyes. It had taken her a fortnight to marshal her courage, but finally, in bed one night, Catelyn had asked her husband the truth of it, asked him to his face.

Yet a castle has no secrets. Even if they would keep their tongue near outsiders, Edric and Allyria would know.

Also where was this ship kept?

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The Red Mountains that compose its western and northern boundaries have kept Dorne separate from the rest of the realm for thousands of years, though the deserts have played a role as well. Behind that wall of mountains, more than three-quarters of the land is an arid wasteland. Nor is the long southern coast of Dorne more hospitable, being for the most part a snarl of reefs and rocks, with few protected anchorages. Those ships that do put ashore there, whether by choice or chance, find little to sustain them; there are no forests along the coast to provide timber for repairs, a scarcity of game, few farms, and fewer villages where provisions might be obtained. Even freshwater is hard to come by, and the seas south of Dorne are rife with whirlpools and infested with sharks and kraken.

Ships do make landings, yes, landing and boarding can be done by rowboat, Sansa and LF does so in the Fingers but that ship needs a port somewhere and apparently there are no ports.

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The heart of this ancient kingdom was Storm's End, the last and greatest of the castles raised by the hero king Durran Godsgrief in the Age of Heroes, which stands immense and immovable atop the towering cliffs of Durran's Point. South, beyond Shipbreaker Bay with its wild waters and treacherous rocks, lies Cape Wrath. The moist green tangle of the rainwood dominates the northern two-thirds of the cape. Farther south a broad plain opens up, rolling gently down to the Sea of Dorne, where numerous small fishing villages dot the shoreline. A thriving port and market, the Weeping Town (as it came to be known because it was where the body of the slain hero King Daeron I Targaryen returned to his kingdom after his murder in Dorne), stands here, and much of the region's trade passes through its harbor.

Even on the northern coast where it’s not mentioned to be rocky and reefy it’s just fishing villages.

[Aebram]

I thought of another question I'd like to ask the Martin: "why did you publish AWOIAF and FAB before you finished the core story?"

It occurred to me that the answer might be that he did it to provide us careful readers with new territory in which to search for clues about where the story is going. Otherwise, every time he reveals something like who young Griff really is, or where the three dragon eggs came from, some character would have to deliver a long-winded explanation. Without that, some of the answers would seem to have been pulled out of thin air; and even with the explanations, it all might seem contrived, a collection of deus-ex-machinae plot twists.

Again, if any of you "Council Members" know the answer, Thanks in advance for posting it here.

[EggBlue]

I have to say something regarding Ashara and Howland... why does no one seem to care that there is no way in hell that somebody fakes her own death to be with a guy who literally had just told her that he and his friend have killed her brother?

[Corvo the Crow]

20 minutes ago, EggBlue said:

I have to say something regarding Ashara and Howland... why does no one seem to care that there is no way in hell that somebody fakes her own death to be with a guy who literally had just told her that he and his friend have killed her brother?

Another good point.

”Hey babe! Oh this blood? Don’t worry I’m fine, most of it belongs to your brother, you know, the one I just killed and not in the least bit in a knightly fashion. Such a bleeder this Arthur, ruined my frogspear. So uhhh… want to fake your death and come live with me on a crannog in some mosquito infested swamp?”