polishgenius Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Carry on I think we will improve if and when Pogba is in to help with transitional passing, but that on its own points to the problem which is that him and Shaw are still the only decent game-building passers we have in the entire squad. I don't understand why both James Garner and Dylan Levitt went on loan this season- even if they're not ready for regular first-team action, at least one should surely have been around for emergencies (not to mention, if either is gonna be good enough for the first team then you'd think they should be going on loan in the Prem or another top division, at age 20 and 21). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Not overly familiar with the kids you mention (though I've heard of Garner a bit) - are they genuinely good, or is it just the usual fans' wishful thinking regarding their academy guys, like the vast majority of Liverpool's bunch? Pogba can pass of course, but he's a massive inconsistency all on his own, so he's probably only going to partially fix any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Further proof international football is ruining American sports: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 4 hours ago, Soylent Brown said: are they genuinely good, or is it just the usual fans' wishful thinking regarding their academy guys, like the vast majority of Liverpool's bunch? It's hard to say for sure at this stage, but both are at least progressive passers by trade. Even if they turn out to be not ultimately good enough, in situation's like now where we just don't have anyone who does that it's hard to see how having one of them about wouldn't be useful, if they're anywhere close to being good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 7 hours ago, Soylent Brown said: Not overly familiar with the kids you mention (though I've heard of Garner a bit) - are they genuinely good, or is it just the usual fans' wishful thinking regarding their academy guys, like the vast majority of Liverpool's bunch? Right now I'd say it's just wishful thinking. Although I do think that some fans tend to write off players too quickly. Garner has some solid technical abilities and is a good passer which could see him improve enough to become a solid PL level player (even if it's not at United). He wasn't good enough for Watford last season but has been much better at Forest. Levitt's technical ability is lower than McTominay's and he does not have the physicality or pressing ability of McTominay to compensate. He's also not nearly as good a passer as Garner is - can't see him progressing to be anything beyond a lower division player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Reports that Newcastle will pay a much lower fee than initially reported for Trippier. Deal now expected to be done for around €15m. Corvinus85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On a personal level, having to relocate from Napoli to Toronto is going to suck hard for Insigne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 How grim is this The Winged Shadow and Spockydog 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) Yeah, that's pretty grim. Guess it shows how desperate he is to get back in the game. It's an absolute tragedy how his career played out. His body was basically wrecked by Wenger overplaying him when he was young. In other news, Ornstein writing in The Athletic that Ainsley-Miles to Roma is almost done. The clubs have agreed a deal, with only personal terms yet to be sorted. He writes that these are not expected to be a problem. If this is true, and seeing as it's Ornstein it likely is, it must mean someone else is coming in. With Partey and Elneny off to AFCON, there is no way Arteta sanctions Ainsley's departure without a replacement. And seeing as Ornstein makes absolutely no mention of this point in his piece, imma take it as confirmation of the Wijnaldum rumours. Edited January 4 by Spockydog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 29 minutes ago, Spockydog said: Yeah, that's pretty grim. Guess it shows how desperate he is to get back in the game. It's an absolute tragedy how his career played out. His body was basically wrecked by Wenger overplaying him when he was young. Still remember that performance against Barcelona. Legit just broke prime Barca's entire midfield pressing game basically on his own. It was fucking ridiculous. Real shame how things turned out, yeah. Spockydog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeyjack Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 8 hours ago, Consigliere said: Pretty sad to see Insigne leave Napoli. The frontline of him, Mertens, and Callejon was so much fun to watch for a few years. Kind of crazy that he's going to Toronto, who finished as the 26th best team out of 27 in the MLS last year. Feel like the MLS sometimes gets star players near the end of their careers, but pretty rare for a player of his level when he's still playing well (even if he'll be 31 next year). Offer must have been way better than what he could have earned in Europe, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Has Insigne already retired from the national team? With this move he's basically saying goodbye to the Italian squad, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 The club has also requested for the first leg of the carabao cup semi-final to be postponed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) I'd like to know precisely how many Covid cases they've got. On the radio the other day, peeps were suggesting that some clubs might use this tactic to get games called off, even if they've got enough fit squad players to play the match. Edited January 5 by Spockydog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 16 hours ago, Spockydog said: Yeah, that's pretty grim. Guess it shows how desperate he is to get back in the game. It's an absolute tragedy how his career played out. His body was basically wrecked by Wenger overplaying him when he was young. In other news, Ornstein writing in The Athletic that Ainsley-Miles to Roma is almost done. The clubs have agreed a deal, with only personal terms yet to be sorted. He writes that these are not expected to be a problem. If this is true, and seeing as it's Ornstein it likely is, it must mean someone else is coming in. With Partey and Elneny off to AFCON, there is no way Arteta sanctions Ainsley's departure without a replacement. And seeing as Ornstein makes absolutely no mention of this point in his piece, imma take it as confirmation of the Wijnaldum rumours. It’s Charlie Patino time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, Mexal said: It’s Charlie Patino time. He's goooooood, but not quite ready yet. Just heard on the radio that if Liverpool cannot fulfil their obligations tomorrow night, then Arsenal might be awarded the victory. That would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 We'd lose the away leg anyway! I think with the cases & fixture congestion, they should have just made this a one leg game as opposed to two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Sunland Lord Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 This kid is supposed to be good. Plus, "koza" means goat in Polish, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Polish league is just wank, tho. So transitition from (almost) a beer league to a top league is gonna be rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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