Winterfell is Burning Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Italy, Spain and Germany should up there, because they have probably the best coaches, besides great teams. Though, of course, Italy has to qualify first. Brazil doesn't look like they have a prayer, but mind you, they didn't look like at that stage the last two times they won either (achieving qualification in the final game the two times). But after Greece 2004, I learned to never say never to anyone in these fast knock-out tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorshach Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 So Belgium seems for now to save us the so-boneheaded-it-couldn't-even-come-from-Trump idea of Martinez, and it then seems our options are Derby managers. Lampard doesn't seem a good fit, so just on strength of local connections and not being Frank, I'd take Rooney of those two. Given a choice. What I really want, though, is a transfer of the entire board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 I think there's a good chance Rooney doesn't take it now because if he keeps Derby up he's going down in history, if he fails they'll still appreciate him, whereas if he dips now they'll hate him forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 On the other hand, if Derby are in the financial straits I believe they are, Rooney might just be happy enough to work for an employer where he doesn't have to wonder if the monthly salary cheque will clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Soylent Brown said: And if any of the Harrys are horribly out of form, England are completely fucked as Southgate is going to play them anyway. The best England teams always have 'Bobby's' and lots of people from the North East. Without either of those this time round, I don't hold out much hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorshach Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Less of a risk for Rooney to stay at Derby, to be sure. So if we approach him and he accepts, I'd imagine 1) PL and 2) well, it's Everton would be our selling points. If it's enough is anyone's guess at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: Apparently fat Frank is in the running for Everton. Hahahahaha They should give it to Wazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorshach Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Quote Everton owner Moshiri and chairman Bill Kenwright are leading the pursuit of a new manager and initially had hopes of making an appointment before the Villa game. Not to worry, we couldn't be in worse hands.. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60042196 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 This AFCON tournament has been 10/10 so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Rorschach - 2 said: Less of a risk for Rooney to stay at Derby, to be sure. So if we approach him and he accepts, I'd imagine 1) PL and 2) well, it's Everton would be our selling points. If it's enough is anyone's guess at this point. This is like Lampard getting offered the Chelsea job too early in his career. It’s probably a poisoned chalice because he doesn’t yet have the experience or reputation to take command of the situation, but perhaps he cannot pass up this opportunity: a multi-year contract on PL wages plus a visible opportunity to show he can manage in the PL, and they’re so bad that almost anything would look like an improvement. I cannot imagine who else will be offering Rooney a PL managerial role in a well-financed large club who should be competing for the outer European spots, plus lots of fan goodwill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 18 hours ago, Winterfell is Burning said: England and France were also the favorites to win the Euros... 4 hours ago, Soylent Brown said: England do have a lot of good players, but they're a bit short on quality at centre back, centre forward and manager, so I wouldn't put them at the top of any lists. All of the top teams should put us away handily. And if any of the Harrys are horribly out of form, England are completely fucked as Southgate is going to play them anyway. That was my reaction too. I would have mentioned Italy, France, Spain and Germany before England. Maybe even Brazil. They all have weaknesses and problems for sure, but so do England. Despite England’s glut of young talent they struggle to score from open play against any decent side and some of their undroppable players are in terrible club form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, Iskaral Pust said: I cannot imagine who else will be offering Rooney a PL managerial role in a well-financed large club who should be competing for the outer European spots, plus lots of fan goodwill. Give the Manchester United board another couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Hahahah. 2-0 up at half time. Dayum, I should have applied for one of the 2.000 tickets. Not gonna last, but it's fun while it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 It's funnier to me than it should be that Brighton have apparently spent all game doing lovely passing football dominance but the way they score is by sticking a corner into the mixer. I mean I hope they go on to win and they are still overachieving to a point but there's something that Potter just cannot get quite right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2-1!! Bye, bye Dortmund. Bellingham and Haaland are freaking overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Harvey Elliott's back in full training apparently. I didn't think there was any chance of that happening this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 20 hours ago, mormont said: On the other hand, if Derby are in the financial straits I believe they are, Rooney might just be happy enough to work for an employer where he doesn't have to wonder if the monthly salary cheque will clear. Just picking this up to note that it seems the EFL are concerned Derby don't have the money to finish out the season. If that's the case, Rooney would be mad not to take the Everton job if it's offered. https://www.efl.com/news/2022/january/efl-statement-derby-county/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon the Leaner Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Wouldn't mind Suarez going to Villa as reported. Surely Atleti will be less painful to play in CL without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 18 hours ago, Iskaral Pust said: This is like Lampard getting offered the Chelsea job too early in his career. It’s probably a poisoned chalice because he doesn’t yet have the experience or reputation to take command of the situation, but perhaps he cannot pass up this opportunity: a multi-year contract on PL wages plus a visible opportunity to show he can manage in the PL, and they’re so bad that almost anything would look like an improvement. Everton is probably decissively less pressure for him than for Lampard at Chelsea. Everton are not anywhere near top four + material. So way less expectation for Rooney to get results. If it wasn't for the CL title, knives might have been out for Tuchel already. Rooney at United, that would be an entirely different story. But a midtable EPL team that would probably be not totally out of his league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 There might not be tons of expectation at Everton, but that hasn't stopped them from keeping up with Chelsea's managerial body-count recently. He'd probably get until the end of next season, but if at that point they weren't at least vaguely competing for top 7/8, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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