Mosi Mynn Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 There has always been the wider phenomenon of authors writing stories using the worlds and characters of other authors, particularly ones like Enid Blyton who are considered old-fashioned and a bit problematic by some these days. I find it fascinating - is this fan fiction, just on a professional level? Link to the Jacqueline Wilson story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Thought this might be about the Magic Treehouse books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosi Mynn Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Rhom said: Thought this might be about the Magic Treehouse books. Maybe I should change the title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 It is done from time to time. It could be fun to read, so long as Sanderson is restricted to his own sandbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosi Mynn Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 Sanderson and The Wheel of Time? That's an interesting take on this, and maybe unique? An author finishing another's work with permission and notes. Other authors have written about James Bond and Sherlock Holmes. Then there are novels that take an aspect or concept from a novel and expand on it like The Wild Sargasso Sea. The Silmarillion and Christopher Tolkien probably fit in here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leofric Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Stephen Baxter wrote a sequel to H.G.Wells The Time Machine that was authorized by Wells' estate for the centennial of the original story being published, called The Time Ships which earned several awards and nominations. Philip Jose Farmer incorporated several literary figures into his Wold Newton Family biographies, including Tarzan, Doc Savage, Phineas Fogg, Sherlock Holmes, Lord Peter Wimsey, and even Sam Spade and Philip Marlowe, and referenced so many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-Winged Balrog Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 The Aeneid is totally a fanfiction of the Iliad. Actually, 90% of ancient Greek and Roman literature is just a pile of fanfiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Neil Gaiman has written some very interesting Holmes fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 What about authors stealing the identity of a character from another author’s work, then writing a novel under the name of that character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 What about when the children of the author think they can write in that world, "because mom said it was okay before she died" and then the stuff is derivative and schlocky and with a healthy dose of creepy? And then having fans of the original stuff declare the new stuff "wonderful" and "don't you dare criticize! His mother gave the okay!"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 43 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said: What about when the children of the author think they can write in that world, "because mom said it was okay before she died" and then the stuff is derivative and schlocky and with a healthy dose of creepy? And then having fans of the original stuff declare the new stuff "wonderful" and "don't you dare criticize! His mother gave the okay!"... Only Ann McCaffery wrote Pern. 1 hour ago, Myshkin said: What about authors stealing the identity of a character from another author’s work, then writing a novel under the name of that character? Examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Only Ann McCaffery wrote Pern. That's what I'm screaming! Try to tell a Todd McCaffrey fan that he's only skirting on his mother's coattails, and they bust out the, "he wrote a book with her! She approved it!" and then trying to explain that she was older then and maybe might not have been as involved as they want to believe...how I've not gotten banned from those Facebook Groups... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unJon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Only Ann McCaffery wrote Pern. Examples? Only Frank Herbert wrote Dune books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 46 minutes ago, unJon said: Only Frank Herbert wrote Dune books. Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leofric Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Only Ann McCaffery wrote Pern. Examples? He may be referring to Kilgore Trout, Kilgore Trout was a fictional science fiction author in several Kurt Vonnegut novels. Philip Jose Farmer wrote a book as Kilgore Trout called Venus on the Half-Shell, for a while everyone assumed Vonnegut had written it, until the truth came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loge Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/12/2022 at 9:35 AM, Mosi Mynn said: There has always been the wider phenomenon of authors writing stories using the worlds and characters of other authors, particularly ones like Enid Blyton who are considered old-fashioned and a bit problematic by some these days. I find it fascinating - is this fan fiction, just on a professional level? Link to the Jacqueline Wilson story Isn't Blyton's work still under copyright? She hasn't been dead for 75 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosi Mynn Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, Loge said: Isn't Blyton's work still under copyright? She hasn't been dead for 75 years. Other people have written Famous Five stories (and probably others) - so maybe the Blyton Estate is happy to give permission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Didn't Dumas cob the three musketeers and co from something else? Does Stoppard's Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead count? Or Gardner's' Grendel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reny of Storms End Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 4:14 AM, Mosi Mynn said: The Silmarillion and Christopher Tolkien probably fit in here too. Didn't Guy Gavriel Kay write a lot of the Silmarillion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 12 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Examples? 10 hours ago, Leofric said: He may be referring to Kilgore Trout, Kilgore Trout was a fictional science fiction author in several Kurt Vonnegut novels. Philip Jose Farmer wrote a book as Kilgore Trout called Venus on the Half-Shell, for a while everyone assumed Vonnegut had written it, until the truth came out. Yup, that’s the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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