Spockydog Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 31 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: You have to wonder if the tories are being as supportive of Jamie Wallis in private as they are being in public. Yeah, pretty sure they're being as caring and supportive as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: You have to wonder if the tories are being as supportive of Jamie Wallis in private as they are being in public. Surely we already know the answer to this? https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/30/boris-johnson-offers-support-to-trans-mp-just-hours-after-mocking-gender-identity-16370696/ Quote Mr Johnson is said to have opened his speech at a dinner for Tory MPs earlier that night by saying: ‘Good evening ladies and gentleman, or as Keir Starmer would put it, people who are assigned female or male at birth.’ After Wallis’s announcement, the prime minister tweeted: ‘Sharing this very intimate story would have taken an immense amount of courage. 'Thank you for your bravery, which will undoubtedly support others. The Conservative Party I lead will always give you, and everyone else, the love and support you need to be yourself.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, mormont said: Surely we already know the answer to this? https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/30/boris-johnson-offers-support-to-trans-mp-just-hours-after-mocking-gender-identity-16370696/ Probably this demonstrates that Johnson's position is not about being anti trans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Racists gonna racist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Thank fuck for our gun laws. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-60932672 That's No. 32 and 34. I'm No.40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 40 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: Thank fuck for our gun laws. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-60932672 That's No. 32 and 34. I'm No.40. Bloody hell. Glad to see you're okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Which Tyler said: Thank fuck for our gun laws. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-60932672 That's No. 32 and 34. I'm No.40. Indeed. Was this guy a known nut job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Which Tyler said: Thank fuck for our gun laws. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-60932672 That's No. 32 and 34. I'm No.40. What Wert said. I hope you all don't turn USA in these ... matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Upsetting to see something like that in your neighbourhood. I can't imagine. I am very glad that the guy couldn't have got a gun, but sorry that there was one fatality (and a couple of serious wounds) even so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Indeed. Was this guy a known nut job? It was known tha the 2 of them had a running feud, and that it was reasonably one-sided. I didn't know the rest of the shit coming out in court. But then, I didn't know either of them as anything more than nodding acquaintances. I was at work when it happened, Ali missed it by minutes, as in she was leaving the estate whilst the cops were heading in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Which Tyler said: Thank fuck for our gun laws. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-60932672 That's No. 32 and 34. I'm No.40. JFC. That's terrifying. Sgt Wilkinson showed immense bravery. So glad you're okay and didn't get caught up in it. Eek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Sorry to hear that was so close. Glad you were both safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 The barrel scraping isn't going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Spockydog said: The barrel scraping isn't going well. While I have no sympathy for any tory at all, it must be fucking stomach churning knowing you have to make yourself look a prick on national television to defend the indefensible and try to keep that bobble head in power. Enjoyed telling tory Councillor who canvassed my door tonight to 'never darken my doorstep again'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 3/30/2022 at 3:54 PM, BigFatCoward said: You have to wonder if the tories are being as supportive of Jamie Wallis in private as they are being in public. On 3/30/2022 at 4:29 PM, mormont said: Surely we already know the answer to this? https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/30/boris-johnson-offers-support-to-trans-mp-just-hours-after-mocking-gender-identity-16370696/ Just to hammer home the point: Probably because it is, in fact, a signal that the government is uninterested in LGBT issues except if they can be weaponised as a culture war issue. After all, they've chosen to ditch this bill because of an alleged need to slim down the legislative agenda, but keep a bill on 'free speech' in universities that is largely intended to defend the rights of homophobic and transphobic speakers (a bill which the government has more or less admitted is legally entirely unnecessary, as the Office for Students already has sufficient powers to regulate in this area). Choices, as they say, have been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 56 minutes ago, mormont said: Just to hammer home the point: Probably because it is, in fact, a signal that the government is uninterested in LGBT issues except if they can be weaponised as a culture war issue. After all, they've chosen to ditch this bill because of an alleged need to slim down the legislative agenda, but keep a bill on 'free speech' in universities that is largely intended to defend the rights of homophobic and transphobic speakers (a bill which the government has more or less admitted is legally entirely unnecessary, as the Office for Students already has sufficient powers to regulate in this area). Choices, as they say, have been made. Expect a U-turn on this one. The outcry is going to be massive. If they wanted to slip it out whilst people were distracted by Ukraine, they were a week or so too late (Ukraine is still a big story, but other stories are now getting a lot more play as well). I suspect they want to detach the conversion therapy for the LGB sector away from the T sector, which they are happier to exploit for political purposes, but haven't found a way of doing that is workable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I see the hand of Rees-Mogg in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Werthead said: Expect a U-turn on this one. The outcry is going to be massive. If they wanted to slip it out whilst people were distracted by Ukraine, they were a week or so too late (Ukraine is still a big story, but other stories are now getting a lot more play as well). I suspect they want to detach the conversion therapy for the LGB sector away from the T sector, which they are happier to exploit for political purposes, but haven't found a way of doing that is workable. I'm not surprised that your predictions are entirely accurate, but I was maybe expecting it to take longer than an hour to come true: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60947028 Quote The government insists it will ban so-called conversion therapy for gay or bisexual people in England and Wales - but not for transgender people. It comes hours after it had said it would drop the ban entirely. If they think this partial U-turn excluding transgender conversion therapy is going to stop the original backlash I think they're very much mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 How very encouraging on Transgender day of visibility of all days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 37 minutes ago, HelenaExMachina said: How very encouraging on Transgender day of visibility of all days These things typically are not accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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