UK Politics: Cost of Living Crisis

[Heartofice]

I wonder how many people are currently googling Tractors to figure out how you would be taken to porn. 

[SeanF]

I suppose the link between tractors and porn comes from Spinal Tap’s hit single “Working on a Sex Farm.”

”Sex farm woman, don’t you hear my tractor rumbling by…”

[BigFatCoward]

1 hour ago, Zorral said:

This is only personal and anecdotal, it isn't actually proof, but out of my own personal experience I would say it is impossible to accidentally surf into a porn site while net surfing --

 

If the last thing you were looking at was porn before you left the house, then you opened your browser, thats what would come up. After I've finished watching porn on my phone I always open the bbc website so it doesn't open accidentally. 

[Heartofice]

1 minute ago, BigFatCoward said:

If the last thing you were looking at was porn before you left the house, then you opened your browser, thats what would come up. After I've finished watching porn on my phone I always open the bbc website so it doesn't open accidentally. 

Incognito mode. Rookie.

[mormont]

I'm going to have to say I agree with HoI here, in that the Rees-Mogg Brexiter position has always been consistent and is consistent with what Rees-Mogg is saying above: that Brexit would let the UK have all the good bits of being in the EU without any nasty responsibilities and allow us to do whatever we liked with no consequences. We can ignore customs checks, flout our own agreements, whatever suits us at any given time, and never have to do anything that might cost us.

The question is whether that position is actually related to reality. We're currently attempting to find out.

[Derfel Cadarn]

I wonder if it was “Animal Farm” (not the Orwell one) that he ‘accidentally’ opened?

[Spockydog]

2 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said:

I wonder if it was “Animal Farm” (not the Orwell one) that he ‘accidentally’ opened?

Lordy. Is that even real?

[Derfel Cadarn]

5 minutes ago, Spockydog said:

Lordy. Is that even real?

A former work colleague claimed he and his friends got hold of a copy, but gave up shortly into it.

[Zorral]

18 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

If the last thing you were looking at was porn before you left the house, then you opened your browser, thats what would come up. After I've finished watching porn on my phone I always open the bbc website so it doesn't open accidentally. 

So, again, habitual. As others suggested, perhaps obsessive, compulsive.

[Derfel Cadarn]

Joke going around is, Parish quit after he got a John Deere letter from his wife

[A Horse Named Stranger]

4 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said:

A former work colleague claimed he and his friends got hold of a copy, but gave up shortly into it.

Reminds me of a story, back when I was in highschool. 

Friend of mine was a bigger stoner, than this horse, and he was also into the nostril powder for a while (which once got him letter with a request for a statement from the homicide department of the police, different story). Anyway, one of his sources for weed was a guy (let's call him "King"), who was a friend of the older brother of another highschool mate of ours. Closer friend of his than of mine. Anyway...

So he once told me this little story. NSFW and graphic description follows thus spoiler tags from here on.

Spoiler

They were apparently once sitting there totally stoned at King's place. I mean high as the proverbial kite. So King picks up a video and puts in the VHS (story took place over 20 years ago). And yes, it was humons having intercourse with all kinds of animals. From a guy fucking a chicken (quite literally), to girls having a go with dogs and whatnot. My buddy was by his own account just too stoned to get the hell out of Dodge, so he watched it in his spaced out state. He had a very dry/sardonic way of describing what he saw. Dude, that shit was sick [...] So there was this one scene with two naked girls and a dog. The one girl tried to push the dog onto the other girl. Then dog broke loose and instad of walked behind that other girl, to do her. [...] Most of those animals were just passive. Well, except for the dog. That was just horny.

That last sentense in his matter of fact voice, turned my reaction from. into . Him going like. Dude, that's not funny! FFS! 

Anyway, long story short, yes, those videos apparently really do exist.

[Zorral]

Ya, habitual. not accidental.

It was at a meeting of female members of the Conservative 2022 group in Westminster on Tuesday night when the allegation first emerged. Two women said they had witnessed a male colleague watching pornography. One, a minister, said she had also seen him viewing adult material in a committee meeting.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/30/four-days-of-drift-that-let-the-neil-parish-phone-porn-scandal-grow-and-grow

Also a crime.

.... Last night Jess Phillips, Labour’s shadow minister for domestic abuse and safeguarding, said that it appeared that Parish “of his own admission” had committed a criminal offence under the Indecent Displays (Control) Act of 1981.

The act

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/42/section/1

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states that: “If any indecent matter is publicly displayed the person making the display and any person causing or permitting the display to be made shall be guilty of an offence.”

It adds that: “Any matter which is displayed in or so as to be visible from any public place shall, for the purposes of this section, be deemed to be publicly displayed.”

Sentences range from a fine to up to two years in prison. ....

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/30/disgraced-tory-mp-neil-parish-broke-law-by-watching-porn-in-commons

[HexMachina]

2 hours ago, Zorral said:

This is only personal and anecdotal, it isn't actually proof, but out of my own personal experience I would say it is impossible to accidentally surf into a porn site while net surfing -- UNLESS one has already done tons of searches online for porn sites and visited them often, even if they aren't bookmarked on your personal device.  So frequently visited porn sites are cached and the browser auto-completes, and there you are, watching naked tractors* squirming while oil is spurting all over them in the greatest plowing shots ever.

I have never once watched porn myself, or looked for it, online.  Ever.  I surf and google all the time and have for years and years and year.  It's my job to a great degree.  NEVER ONCE HAVE I TURNED UP A PORN SITE.  Not once.

* Having grown up on a farm I know a great deal about tractor behavior.

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In the meantime this food situation is only getting worse, and will continue to worsen.

Governments Tighten Grip on Global Food Stocks, Sending Prices Higher
Dozens of countries have thrown up trade barriers in the past two months to protect scarce supplies of food and commodities, but experts say the policies will only exacerbate a global food crisis.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/30/business/economy/global-food-prices-ukraine.html

 

I was doing a Google search for a street name at work (deciphering a document that was handwritten, unsure of the exact spelling) and the top result was a porn site which I had the good sense not to click on at work at least*.

Point is they do show up quite easily whether you want them to or not.

 

*Naturally I looked later, on my personal device

[Heartofice]

So one question is, is it still a horrible misogynistic smear story about Angela Rayner if it’s both true and also started by her?

https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/news/politics/176486/the-truth-about-the-story-angela-rayner-branded-a-desperate-perverted-smear...-she-was-the-one-who-told-it
 

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According to one MP who was part of the group, ‘she said, “I like to do my Sharon Stone trick. I cross and uncross my legs and give him a flash of my ginger g******” [a vulgar and offensive colloquialism].’ A second MP, who was with the group, also recalled hearing her use the phrase.

 

As Rayner was making the joke, another MP  joined the group. She told me: ‘I didn’t hear the whole thing, but I remember hearing her say those words.’ A fourth MP said: ‘Angela was telling us how she distracts Boris.’ They too confirmed the use of the vulgar colloquialism. So four MPs all heard Rayner use exactly the same words.

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BUT then something that is relatively unusual in our era of social-media-fuelled culture crusades occurred. The truth began to emerge. A recording of a podcast Rayner made earlier in the year with comedian Matt Forde revealed the terrace banter wasn’t the only time she had joked about ‘doing a Sharon Stone’ at PMQs. 

Several MPs – a number of whom had been scared off by threats from their own Prime Minister to unleash ‘the terrors of the Earth’ on the story’s original source – came forward to myself and other journalists to confirm she had made the comments. The Mail on Sunday politely rejected the Speaker’s summons, and Sir Lindsay backed off. 

So if Rayner has being doing the round shedding white womens tears about this story, raving about misogyny, all the while telling jokes about how she shows her GINGER GROWLER to distract Boris.. what does that say about her? 

[Which Tyler]

Mail Plus huh? Surely, completely independent of the Daily Mail

[mormont]

Got to say, this is a new low, HoI.

[Heartofice]

12 minutes ago, mormont said:

Got to say, this is a new low, HoI.

Er.. how so? If this is true, and there seem to be quite a few MPs saying it is, then it’s a new low for Rayner

[mormont]

24 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

Er.. how so? If this is true, and there seem to be quite a few MPs saying it is, then it’s a new low for Rayner

I do, in fact, take that back. The previous discussion of trans issues remains your lowest moment.

Regarding this issue, that you can't see the issue only underlines the problem.

[Heartofice]

7 minutes ago, mormont said:

I do, in fact, take that back. The previous discussion of trans issues remains your lowest moment.

Regarding this issue, that you can't see the issue only underlines the problem.

Explain it to me then rather than dancing round it.

 

I will also note that yet again you have decided to come in and make a personal comment rather than address the content of my post. Someone in your position should really be better than that no?

[mormont]

Someone sitting down, you mean?

ETA - again, I'm sorry if you can't see the issues. I don't actually owe it to you to explain them.

The sad fact is that explaining them to you, if you can't already see them and are unwilling to engage in any self-reflection to look for them, is unlikely to help.

For the record: if you think the story above, if true, and if it did somehow lead to the original story - and that's two colossal 'ifs' - somehow turns the issue around to the point where it's Angela Rayner who comes off worst, it's because you didn't understand what the issue originally was.

The story above is a desperate attempt to justify the original story by finding a way to blame the woman. That is doubling down on the original problem. It doesn't address the appalling culture that the original story highlighted. It doesn't address the difference between a person making a joke in private at their own expense and the weaponisation of that joke by means of an anonymous leak to a public newspaper story, done in the cause of perpetuating that culture. It doesn't address the issue of why Rayner would say such a thing in a context of trying to curry favour within that culture. It doesn't, in short, scratch the surface of the problems the original story highlighted. And if you think it does, that suggests you, too, were desperate all along to find a way in which this was the woman's fault.

I would also be obliged if you would stop trying to use the fact that I am a moderator to shield yourself by means of crying 'personal attack' any time I criticise your appalling political opinions.