Tywin et al. Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, Babblebauble said: I'm pretty much exclusively pro-union, but the fact that the NFLPA is going to the mat for Watson (their argument is that since Robert Kraft, Jerry Jones, and Dan Snyder weren't punished for comparable offenses then Watson can't be either) makes me sick. I mean I get that the union has an obligation to defend its members from relative injustices from the employing entity, but ick Agreed. Technically they have to, but no one would fault them if they just keep losing that damn paperwork. Going to the mat for him is gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 I suppose it's kinda like the ACLU defending nazis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secretary of Eumenes Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 No, free speech and right to assembly (even as a Nazi) is guaranteed to every citizen, no matter how heinous their beliefs. Right to rape is not. Yet. I understand the NFLPA's position, obligated to defend players from the league, but it disturbs me greatly when the excuse is 'well, you didn't punish that guy...' If feels almost too on the nose a reflection of the past seven years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Babblebauble said: No, free speech and right to assembly (even as a Nazi) is guaranteed to every citizen, no matter how heinous their beliefs. Right to rape is not. Way to entirely miss the point...and then immediately express it yourself: 9 minutes ago, Babblebauble said: I understand the NFLPA's position, obligated to defend players from the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secretary of Eumenes Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Okay. I mean I was just furthering the fucking conversation but okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Seems there's some truth to this. I hope the NFL goes through with it: Imo he deserves a lifetime ban. The complete lack of contrition on top of everything he's accused of and likely did is just too much for any sane company to tolerate. Kalnestk Oblast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grozeng Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) Would an indefinite ban void his contract? It was fully guaranteed, but what happens if he is banned. I can't imagine he will get a full ban. He will be back at some point. Ray Lewis killed someone and he is now in the HOF. Oh, and just to be clear, he deserves to be banned. I just don't think it will happen or if it does, he will be back at some point after appealing. Edited June 26, 2022 by grozeng Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 I had kinda forgotten to follow Rita Oak on Twitter and I have missed several of her Jimmy G drawings. Today an article on ESPN popped up about her and it reminded me. There’s a great South Park themed one that Kittle actually now uses as his profile picture. But I definitely had a laugh at this one: briantw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 She could have given him a bigger football... Rhom and briantw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 ESPN Insider had an article on the ten best edge rushers. Nick Bosa clocked in at third (Joey was fourth) behind Watt and Garrett, respectively. Thought this tweet and quote were pretty awesome: Quote When it comes to double-teams off the edge, there's Bosa ... and then there's everyone else. Bosa was facing doubles on nearly 30% of his snaps in 2021 and still posted 15.5 sacks and a 23.0% pass rush win rate, eighth in the NFL. He finished the year at 26% double-teams, tops among this list. Rhom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 Wasn't that the chart that if you include the times that Donald rushes from the edge, that he's like off the charts better than everyone else? Like he was doubled 60% of the time and still had a win rate of 25%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Just skimmed some headlines so I don't know for sure ( but suspect it's so ), I think the sportsbooks currently have BUFFALO as favorites to win the SB. Haven't seen that in my lifetime, that I can recall. Eta: Eh here it is folks- The current favorites to win Super Bowl 2023 is the Buffalo Bills at +650, followed by the Buccaneers +750, Chiefs +900, and Packers +1200. The defending champs, the Los Angeles Rams, have the fifth-best odds (or fourth depending on the sportsbook) at +1100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) Von Miller is becoming a ring slut, with the Robert Horry strategy. Eta: Have skill, will travel. Edited July 5, 2022 by DireWolfSpirit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Maithanet said: Wasn't that the chart that if you include the times that Donald rushes from the edge, that he's like off the charts better than everyone else? Like he was doubled 60% of the time and still had a win rate of 25%? That's what I was criticizing about that chart when it was posted - I was pretty sure most of Donald's double teams came from the inside, not the edge, which is qualitatively different, and that's why Donald was such an outlier on that chart. Considering Donald isn't even on the chart I just posted, pretty sure that assumption was correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Conditional fifth… ooof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 "All parties split the financials to make it happen" is kind of weird phrasing. I'm assuming that just means the Browns are picking up half his salary -- or does it mean Mayfield himself is picking up a third of his own salary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, DMC said: "All parties split the financials to make it happen" is kind of weird phrasing. I'm assuming that just means the Browns are picking up half his salary -- or does it mean Mayfield himself is picking up a third of his own salary? Mayfield ate around three million to make it happen, although I think he can earn that money back via incentives. Also, the pick is a fifth that can turn into a fourth based on playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, briantw said: Mayfield ate around three million to make it happen, although I think he can earn that money back via incentives. Ah, so it was all parties. Interesting, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 That deal is very surprising. Do the Browns know something we don't about Watson? Because it still seems very likely/certain that Watson is going to miss at least half the season, if not the entire year. So why the rush to get rid of Mayfield? Who is the current backup (ie week 1 starter) in Cleveland? Also, a 5th (maybe 4th) rounder for Mayfield? Yikes. The market for him must have been a lot worse than I anticipated. It is hard to believe that Carson Wentz has greater trade value than Baker Mayfield, but apparently it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Maithanet said: That deal is very surprising. Do the Browns know something we don't about Watson? Because it still seems very likely/certain that Watson is going to miss at least half the season, if not the entire year. So why the rush to get rid of Mayfield? Who is the current backup (ie week 1 starter) in Cleveland? Also, a 5th (maybe 4th) rounder for Mayfield? Yikes. The market for him must have been a lot worse than I anticipated. It is hard to believe that Carson Wentz has greater trade value than Baker Mayfield, but apparently it's true. The Browns signed Brissett to be their backup shortly after trading for Watson. Mayfield was never going to take another snap for the Browns regardless of Watson’s suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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