UK Politics- P0rn, Horn and Local Elections

[polishgenius]

I thought we needed a proper title I guess the mods can sanction me if I'm overstepping

[Raja]

20 minutes ago, polishgenius said:

I thought we needed a proper title I guess the mods can sanction me if I'm overstepping

Sanction you? You dare to say anything about a matter prior to a full investigation? Surely you can't comment to things you're personally doing.

[polishgenius]

37 minutes ago, Raja said:

Sanction you? You dare to say anything about a matter prior to a full investigation? Surely you can't comment to things you're personally doing.

When whoever made a second topic is found, they should be strongly dealt with.

[Which Tyler]

29 minutes ago, polishgenius said:

When whoever made a second topic is found, they should be strongly dealt with.

Dealt with strongly, you say...

 

[williamjm]

1 hour ago, Raja said:

Sanction you? You dare to say anything about a matter prior to a full investigation? Surely you can't comment to things you're personally doing.

Maybe he was ambushed with a "Start New Topic" button?

[Zorral]

2 hours ago, polishgenius said:

we needed a proper title

That other one is highly offensive to a very large portion of the population, oozing gender hatred and gender disgust.  No surprise, of course, from that source.

Another time-honored method to turn the issue of a member of parliament, a minister and a party whip watching porn while sitting next to female members in the House and in committee meeting -- which is a criminal act --  and what this means about the government and the members of parliament and this government's culture of ignoring all laws as not applicable to them, while others are punished for doing as they do, and its general hatred of women and Others,  going back for -- how long? -- very long time. While continuing to revel in use of words that indicate the female genital area.  Disgusting.  Offensive. To expected, evidently.  Biz as usual. Nothing to see here except, well, you know what, snickersnort -- let's all act our age of 9 year old boys.

Nor let's even bother with learning whether the story told by that highly suspect so-called news site, infamous for publishing relentlessly outright lies, as is fox news in this country,  is true, which, that it is unproven, is even acknowledged by the source for the other title.

[DaveSumm]

Honestly hadn’t heard the term outside of Bo Selecta’s Lorraine Kelly character. I spent a fair while looking at the original article wondering what the fuck g*****r meant.

[Heartofice]

42 minutes ago, Zorral said:

That other one is highly offensive to a very large portion of the population, oozing gender hatred and gender disgust.  No surprise, of course, from that source.

That’s pretty harsh language to use against Angela Rayner, it being her term after all. 
 

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According to one MP who was part of the group, ‘she said, “I like to do my Sharon Stone trick. I cross and uncross my legs and give him a flash of my ginger g******” [a vulgar and offensive colloquialism].’ A second MP, who was with the group, also recalled hearing her use the phrase.

This is what she said just before she faked being outraged at the Mail on Sunday story 

[Zorral]

ttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/30/power-politics-and-porn-the-toxic-cocktail-that-rocked-westminster

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/01/if-the-tories-are-serious-about-eradicating-misogyny-maybe-they-should-start-at-the-top

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.... Just last month, Crispin Blunt MP, well known for his interest in legalising prostitution, declared the conviction of fellow Tory MP Imran Ahmad Khan for the sexual assault of a boy a “miscarriage of justice”. He remains at work. So do Conservative colleagues Stephen Crabb, whose sexually explicit texts to a 19-year-old interviewee merely “fell short” of party standards; Damian Green, demoted after sexual harassment and pornography allegations; and Rob Roberts, readmitted – the whip only suspended – after sexually harassing a junior member of staff. David Warburton, reportedly accused by three women of sexual harassment, is similarly suspended, pending investigation.

Since elaborating on his personal struggles, Jamie Wallis, Westminster’s first trans MP, appears to have been exonerated for his earlier association with a sugar daddy website (“Are you a student, a single parent or just short of money?”). Johnson’s long history of workplace affairs with younger staff, right up to the one with a twentysomething favourite from party communications, we know about. Matt Hancock’s excuse for pandemic priapism: “I fell deeply in love.”

It looked for a while as if porn enthusiast Neil Parish would loyally take a lead from his leader’s approach to party investigation and wait for an inquiry – this one to tell him if he liked perving at work. That was until he yesterday confessed to his “moment of madness”.

That leaves the Basic Instinct briefer who could reasonably expect colleagues to offer at least as much support as was extended to Charlie Elphicke, the convicted sex offender whose wife, Natalie, inherited his constituents. The Conservatives’ signature line in defending the indefensible originates, in fact, well before #partygate, when the whips rescinded Elphicke’s suspension (for being under investigation for sexual assault), so he could vote. The Sunday Times reported on the Elphicke cover-up that five senior Conservative MPs – Mrs Elphicke, Roger Gale, Theresa Villiers, Adam Holloway and Bob Stewart – were subsequently forced to apologise or be suspended from the Commons “for improperly trying to influence a judge” on his behalf, an act “corrosive to the rule of law”.

So while not, as far as we know, rivalling Charing Cross police station for professional depravity, the ruling party demonstrates scarcely more interest in respecting either women or normal workplace boundaries. The existence of the latest porn connoisseur was exposed when female Conservative MPs complained to their chief whip about intolerable sexism and harassment, presumably over and above the eminent cases of which he will be aware.

Is the Conservative party especially attractive to sexual miscreants or does it take formerly respectful men and make them that way? Whatever the process, it accords with Johnson’s great man theory of history that leadership by a devotee of covert asymmetrical relationships, someone with a documented view of individual women as assemblages of sexual characteristics, would only exacerbate its institutionally sexist culture.

If Westminster harassment is now as pervasive as even Nadine Dorries can remember, it is hard to see this being corrected while Johnson, with as little moral authority on this subject as on any other, remains in office.

Under him, his party would seem an outlier on extreme misogyny and sexual harassment if it weren’t so redolent of standards recently prevailing in the Metropolitan police. It will be in his nature, as with #partygate, to blame underlings, to attempt piety, to aim his mini-terrors of the earth at men who think identically about younger female colleagues.

Women should demand, instead, the kind of cultural transformation now being proposed by Sir Stephen House, Cressida Dick’s acting successor at the Metropolitan police. “There is a significant campaign within the organisation to deal with this completely unacceptable behaviour, to root it out and to exit those people who are exhibiting that behaviour from the organisation as fast as possible and in the right way.” But Dick, who’d never even called women “totty”, had to exit first.

 

 

[BigFatCoward]

First ever tactical vote for me in local elections. Liberals have a very good chance of beating the tories. 

[Zorral]

Informative book about this tory circle of power over the UK government.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/may/01/chums-how-a-tiny-caste-of-oxford-tories-took-over-the-uk-by-simon-kuper-review

 

[Which Tyler]

Tories gonna tory

[Spockydog]

 

The morons are only making her stronger. 

[Derfel Cadarn]

 

[Spockydog]

Fucking state of 'em. 

 

 

[DMC]

One interesting thing about the Raynar story is there was a strikingly similar story about a female US Senator this week - amplified by the Daily Mail - that Kyrsten Sinema joked and boasted about using her cleavage to persuade Republican men (to be fair to the Mail, the claim is from an upcoming book by NYT journalists).  Most appropriately, the US version of the story is much more prude than the UK version.

[SeanF]

14 hours ago, Zorral said:

ttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/30/power-politics-and-porn-the-toxic-cocktail-that-rocked-westminster

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/01/if-the-tories-are-serious-about-eradicating-misogyny-maybe-they-should-start-at-the-top

 

Politics attracts pathological personalities.  There are people who enjoy feasting with panthers.

[Spockydog]

State of this fucking balloon animal.

The picture that she and all the other Tory morons are sharing today was taken with Frank Dobson. Who died in 2019.

She really has to be one of the worst excuses for a minister we have ever had. How is it possible to be so thick? I'm amazed she remembers to breathe.

 

[Heartofice]

52 minutes ago, Spockydog said:

State of this fucking balloon animal.

The picture that she and all the other Tory morons are sharing today was taken with Frank Dobson. Who died in 2019.

She really has to be one of the worst excuses for a minister we have ever had. How is it possible to be so thick? I'm amazed she remembers to breathe.

 

She’s an idiot but:

She didn’t post the picture, you would only think that if you don’t know how Twitter works. She posted a link to an article.

The article states it’s a stock photo, which is quite standard practice.

The story itself is valid, Starmer and Rayner have been bullshitting about breaking covid rules, yet just like GrowlerGate don’t think rules apply to them. There is no real daylight between them or the tories

[Spockydog]