US Politics: A Post-Roe Country

[Week]

41 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

I wouldn't put anything past these idiots:

 

They care about SEA TURTLES more than women. I tell you, I would sooner kick a sea turtle in the mouth than besmirch the honor of my lady wife or daughters. Fuck sea turtles! We stay laser focused on the Right issues. 

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

9 minutes ago, Week said:

They care about SEA TURTLES more than women. I tell you, I would sooner kick a sea turtle in the mouth than besmirch the honor of my lady wife or daughters. Fuck sea turtles! We stay laser focused on the Right issues. 

I may or may not have been involved in an incident on a school bus when I was a kid in which multiple parties threw turtle eggs at one another that were discovered at camp. Clearly a lot of criminals were born that day, not that I had anything to do with it. 

[Zorral]

What’s happening here is horrific, codifying suffering and, virtually female slavery – they are already writing bills and presenting them that forbid a pregnant woman to leave the state.

Already, in Texas, abortion laws inhibit care for miscarriages:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/05/10/1097734167/in-texas-abortion-laws-inhibit-care-for-miscarriages

There is no consideration that a miscarriage often, if not almost always, leaves behind tissues that must be removed, or else it will, ya, you get this? ROT, and kill the woman.  But the same pills and manual procedures that prevent this murder can possible be used for the dread abortion, so no, cannot do. But instead arrest the woman because who knows? and put her in jail, while she dies.

Of course this comes out of slavery states, where enslavement, rape as an economic engine, lynching and child trafficking were / remain great Southern traditions. How else is a genteel southerner supposed to make a living w/o having to work? while feeling his god-given right as a white man to drool from the power over others he so craves?

No frackin' way in this hell Moscow Mitch has done his personal best to create is he going to take a single breath to impede it, whether he's in or he's out, but rather keep it going.

 

[Week]

1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said:

I may or may not have been involved in an incident on a school bus when I was a kid in which multiple parties threw turtle eggs at one another that were discovered at camp. Clearly a lot of criminals were born that day, not that I had anything to do with it. 

Clearly not endangered sea turtle eggs.

[ThinkerX]

Another R congress-critter resigns. If my count is right, that makes three R congress-critters resigning and one dying over the last few months. I figure the D's have a fair though not great shot at claiming Young's seat - but are there any viable D contenders for the others? Or are they solidly ruby red?

Worth bringing up in context of the abortion furor - said R congress-critter is resigning over sexual misconduct charges. Anybody surprised?

 Republican lawmaker announces resignation from Congress following sexual misconduct claims (msn.com)

 

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Rep. Tom Reed (R-N.Y.) announced on Tuesday that he is resigning from Congress, more than one year after a former lobbyist accused the congressman of sexual misconduct.

“After almost 12 years in Congress, today is my last day,” Reed said in remarks on the House floor. “It has been an honor to serve with you all from both parties. I love this institution, as it still exemplifies what is best about our government. We are the people’s House.”

Nicolette Davis, a former lobbyist, told The Washington Post in a story published last March that Reed had sexually harassed her four years earlier. The New York Republican apologized to Davis in a lengthy statement that month but said he had just learned about the alleged incident in the newspaper article.

 

 

[DMC]

1 hour ago, ThinkerX said:

I figure the D's have a fair though not great shot at claiming Young's seat - but are there any viable D contenders for the others? Or are they solidly ruby red?

 

In terms of Reed's seat, it's too soon to tell because New York's maps are still up in the air: 

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Both Delgado’s Hudson Valley district and Reed’s Southern Tier seat face uncertain futures as new maps are being drawn in Steuben County (which, coincidentally, is part of Reed’s district).

After much of GOP Rep. Claudia Tenney’s district was merged with Delgado’s in lines drawn by Democrats earlier this year, she announced plans to run in the seat being vacated by Reed. But there’s still a chance that Tenney’s seat could survive the process that started after the courts tossed the Democratic lines.

In other news, the dream has died for Trump-backed gubernatorial candidate Charles Herbster.  He lost the primary last night to Jim Pillen.

[DireWolfSpirit]

Daines on Abortion: Why do we have laws in place to protect the eggs of a sea turtle or the eggs of eagles…

Because Eagles and Sea Turtles are so much cooler than bawling, dirty diaper making human babies?

It's not their fault.

 

[Corvinus85]

Another defeat for the former - his women groping buddy didn't get the GOP nomination for the governor's race in Nebraska.

[Zorral]

Heather Cox Richards:

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.... In Michigan, Republican Ryan Kelley, who is running for governor, has openly attacked the idea of democracy. “Socialism—it starts with democracy,” he said. “That’s the ticket for the left. They want to push this idea of democracy, which turns into socialism, which turns into communism in every instance.” Kelley’s distinction between “democracy” and a “constitutional republic” is drawn from the John Birch Society in the 1960s, which used that distinction to oppose the idea of one person, one vote, that supported Black voting. ....

 

[Ormond]

5 hours ago, DMC said:

In other news, the dream has died for Trump-backed gubernatorial candidate Charles Herbster.  He lost the primary last night to Jim Pillen.

I was surprised that the reports I saw about this on CNN and MSNBC this morning did NOT mention the sexual harassment/assault allegations against Herbster. With Pillen getting 33.87% and Herbster getting 30.23%, it's very plausible that Herbster would have won if he didn't have that personal issue. I actually think that Herbster getting 30% in Nebraska after such allegations may show a positive effect of Trump's endorsement on his vote total. 

[Zorral]

One of the most chilling considerations about this hideous situation is via a meme making the rounds, about which I just now was informed; the person who shared it wrote, "I'd honestly never seen it from that angle before, and it was a serious headfsck."

The argument goes that whether a foetus is a child or not is irrelevant. The argument is whether you can be forced to use your body to sustain another life. In every other context that simply isn't allowed. You can't be compelled to donate a kidney, or give blood. More than that too, you can't even be compelled to let your dead body be used for organ donations to sustain another life. It doesn't matter whether the recipient is a foetus, a baby, or an adult - you have that choice.

And that means women under this regime would have less rights than a corpse.

[DMC]

3 minutes ago, Ormond said:

I actually think that Herbster getting 30% in Nebraska after such allegations may show a positive effect of Trump's endorsement on his vote total. 

Well, he had a pretty solid lead before the scandal broke.  So, while I certainly agree this isn't really a bad sign for Trump - other than just generally sticking with a candidate after such a damaging story - but I also don't think it's really a good sign either. 

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

 

[Zorral]

As the xtian white male fascists wail about the lack of domestic baby supply in the US, for weeks the stories have been running about how we can't feed the infants the US already has due to lacks and shortages of baby formula.  And no -- just in case somebody doesn't know -- many women are not able to breastfeed, and not by choice either.

 

[butterbumps!]

4 hours ago, Zorral said:

One of the most chilling considerations about this hideous situation is via a meme making the rounds, about which I just now was informed; the person who shared it wrote, "I'd honestly never seen it from that angle before, and it was a serious headfsck."

The argument goes that whether a foetus is a child or not is irrelevant. The argument is whether you can be forced to use your body to sustain another life. In every other context that simply isn't allowed. You can't be compelled to donate a kidney, or give blood. More than that too, you can't even be compelled to let your dead body be used for organ donations to sustain another life. It doesn't matter whether the recipient is a foetus, a baby, or an adult - you have that choice.

And that means women under this regime would have less rights than a corpse.

I'm with you on this, and have used this in argument myself, but then they argue that the comparison is not valid because not donating is a negative action that causes harm, while aborting is a positive action causing harm.  So their argument is that it is more moral to cause death through inaction than action.

One alternative regarding whether it's a "baby" that I've used on the sanctimonious that they normally don't have a reasoned answer for is to ask whether a bowl of raw eggs, flour and sugar is a cake.  I don't think it's changed any minds, but I can't think of a rational rebuttal I've gotten.

[Kalbear]

jUsT cHaNGe tHE mESsagin

 

 

[Jaxom 1974]

Well there's this...

Florida Redistricting Plan Blocked by Court...

[DMC]

1 hour ago, KalVsWade said:

jUsT cHaNGe tHE mESsagin

While I'm 100% on board with the sentiment, it's entirely ass backwards to blame such a fantastical belief on social scientists.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

30 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

Well there's this...

Florida Redistricting Plan Blocked by Court...

Look literally a few posts up. 

We blaming this on you living in Wisconsin, being a Cubs fan or both?

[Martell Spy]

How a long-fought Democratic win could pose trouble for Amazon and Elon Musk
With the confirmation of a third Democrat to the Federal Trade Commission, the progressive chair regains the agency’s majority — and the ability to speed ahead with her priorities.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/11/senate-vote-lina-khan-antitrust-00029129

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Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan now has the Democratic majority she needs to turn her progressive vision for antitrust and privacy into reality.

The Senate’s confirmation of Georgetown University law professor Alvaro Bedoya on Wednesday will end a 2-2 partisan deadlock that kept many of Khan’s priorities on ice since October.

Now Khan has the leeway to pursue a potential antitrust suit against Amazon, crack down on employers’ non-compete agreements and go after middlemen blamed for increasing pharmaceutical prices — while taking steps to protect consumer privacy. And she may be able to cause headaches for Elon Musk’s deal to buy Twitter.

It’s all part of an aggressive anti-monopoly and consumer-protection agenda that has elated progressive activists and angered many Republican lawmakers since Khan took the helm of the agency in June.