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Covid 47: Waving Invisibly


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4 hours ago, KalVsWade said:

After 2 1/2 years of success our family got a positive test - our eldest son got it. That's been the worst case scenario for a while given his previous struggle with cancer and we were extra worried. While he felt like crap for a couple of days he has basically recovered completely now, so that's reassuring.

Both me and my wife tested negative, though both of us have felt like garbage too. 

Dude, that's scary. 

It swept through our house several months ago after my eldest brought it home from school [I suspected]. Bean got it kind of bad, for about almost a week. T Money and I did ok, initially, but for me a lingering exhaustion that lasted almost two months. I hope you all cruise through it.  

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On 6/10/2022 at 8:54 AM, Padraig said:

I have to say.  The skepticism of your average truck driver/banker/celebrity etc. towards science has no impact on the advancement of science (except if they are willing to pay scientists to do research).

Now scientists asking questions about science?  That is what you should be thinking of.  But me asking questions about topics I know almost nothing about?  Only fills the internet with more rubbish!

I think science is about testing falsifiable hypotheses.  Truck drivers, bankers, celebrities, and professional scientists can all equally participate in science.  Granted that trained scientists have a leg up on testing a lot of hypotheses, if trained properly. On the other hand, professional scientists are getting paid professional salaries by entities that may want to influence results.

I trust the scientific process, but I recoil against The Science.  Science that actually moves shit forward is grounded in skepticism.

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15 hours ago, mcbigski said:

I think science is about testing falsifiable hypotheses.  Truck drivers, bankers, celebrities, and professional scientists can all equally participate in science. 

I like your sly move into satire. Truly, this is one of the main lessons of the last two years. Amazing truths uncovered by the Qanon qrew.

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3 hours ago, Week said:

I like your sly move into satire. Truly, this is one of the main lessons of the last two years. Amazing truths uncovered by the Qanon qrew.

I thought I detected an unspoken “And that’s why they all get the Darwin Award, these beautiful amateur scientists who refused a vaccine and actively railed against them.  They trusted their own scientific process of “doing nothing”, and refused the centuries of vaccination research by ‘The Science’ professionals”, in there.

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23 minutes ago, VigoTheCarpathian said:

I thought I detected an unspoken “And that’s why they all get the Darwin Award, these beautiful amateur scientists who refused a vaccine and actively railed against them.  They trusted their own scientific process of “doing nothing”, and refused the centuries of vaccination research by ‘The Science’ professionals”, in there.

The OP can confirm or disconfirm -- however, I don't believe that satire (though *chef's kiss* perfectly executed) was intended.

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Long report -- 

Covid is making flu and other common viruses act in unfamiliar ways

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/06/13/covid-flu-rsv-viruses/

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At one point last month, children were admitted to Yale New Haven Children’s Hospital with a startling range of seven respiratory viruses. They had adenovirus and rhinovirus, respiratory syncytial virus and human metapneumovirus, influenza and parainfluenza, as well as the coronavirus — which many specialists say is to blame for the unusual surges.

“That’s not typical for any time of year and certainly not typical in May and June,” said Thomas Murray, an infection-control expert and associate professor of pediatrics at Yale. Some children admitted to the hospital were co-infected with two viruses and a few with three, he said.

More than two years into the coronavirus pandemic, familiar viruses are acting in unfamiliar ways. Respiratory syncytial virus, known as RSV, typically limits its suffocating assaults to the winter months.

Rhinovirus, cause of the common cold, rarely sends people to the hospital.

And the flu, which seemed to be making a comeback in December after being a no-show the year before, disappeared again in January once the omicron variant of the coronavirus took hold. Now flu is back, but without one common lineage known as Yamagata, which hasn’t been spotted since early 2020. It could have gone extinct or may be lying in wait to attack our unsuspecting immune systems, researchers said.

The upheaval is being felt in hospitals and labs. Doctors are rethinking routines, including keeping preventive shots on hand into the spring and even summer. Researchers have a rare opportunity to figure out whether behavioral changes like stay-at-home orders, masking and social distancing are responsible for the viral shifts, and what evolutionary advantage SARS CoV-2 may be exercising over its microscopic rivals.  ....

 

 

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Bit of an update on our official death stats:

Reported deaths within 28 days of a being reported as a COVID-19 case: 1,286

Deaths officially coded as COVID-19 as the primary cause of death: 543

Of the 543 deaths that have been officially coded as due to COVID-19, 11 occurred more than 28 days after testing positive.

In addition, COVID-19 has been coded as contributing to 300 deaths.

Of the deaths that occurred within 28 days, 215 have been ruled as not related to COVID-19 and 248 deaths are yet to be classified. 

So total deaths that have been officially coded: 1058 of which ~20% turned out not to be COVID-19 at all.

If I may be so presumptuous as to extrapolate to the global death stats, it's possible that the true COVID / COVID-related death rate is "only" 5 million instead of 6.3 million. That's still a lot of deaths, I think.

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17 hours ago, Week said:

:laugh: 

Yeah that checks out.

Fundamentally most of these people are authoritarians who recognize modern academia does not provide evidence for the necessity they’d like to establish and their simple worldview of everything bad being the result of a single group Satanist pedophiles and/or the Jews(mostly the Jews though).

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On 6/12/2022 at 2:26 PM, Week said:

I like your sly move into satire. Truly, this is one of the main lessons of the last two years. Amazing truths uncovered by the Qanon qrew.

I get confused, but are you saying you're pro or anti skepticism?  Suspect that in the end that breaks down along the same lines as pro collective or pro individual tbh.  Which is to say, control from above or not.

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9 hours ago, mcbigski said:

I get confused, but are you saying you're pro or anti skepticism?  Suspect that in the end that breaks down along the same lines as pro collective or pro individual tbh.  Which is to say, control from above or not.

Anyone who has a binary answer to the question are they pro-skepticism or pro-collective should be viewed with...skepticism.

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51 minutes ago, Padraig said:

Anyone who has a binary answer to the question are they pro-skepticism or pro-collective should be viewed with...skepticism.

Ding ding. Nuance, understanding of ill-defined gray areas, and an appreciation of knowing what you don't know is absolutely critical.

Whereas, mcbigski's uber-pro-skeptic view is in favor of anti-vaxx, anti-mask, qanon, anti-CRT, 'Big Lie', and a serious of other socially and morally corrosive counter-factuals.

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On 6/15/2022 at 8:28 PM, mcbigski said:

I get confused, but are you saying you're pro or anti skepticism?  Suspect that in the end that breaks down along the same lines as pro collective or pro individual tbh.  Which is to say, control from above or not.

I too reject the premise of the earth being round.

I did my research.

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Here where I live our Covid condition has downgraded to "medium" for all parts of the city, except for the Bronx, which is now "low."  This is a good news!  Last week we were still at "high risk" and several parts of the city were "extremely high risk."  Hospitalizations have fallen too.

Not good for other parts of the US though, which are rapidly rising to high risk and extremely high risk.

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