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What if Khal Drogo's Khalasar captured King's Landing and made Rhaego the King on the Iron Throne?


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On 5/28/2022 at 1:03 PM, Jonsa said:

Possession of the Iron Throne is nine-tenths of the law.

House Targaryen would be the new royal house by right of conquest, so...

House Targaryen became the new royal house by conquering Westeros, a.k.a. beating every single army that was sent against them. They showed themselves the top dog in Westeros, and so became rulers.

That is not something Dothraki are capable of. Even if they somehow conquer the King's Landing, that does not give them the rest of Westeros. Even the extremely centralized Byzantine Empire merely fractured when Crusaders conquered the Constantinople, but it did not keel over and die merely because it lost the capital.

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Something smells like fish!!!!.  Very fishy.  @Jonsa wants to encourage Anti-Dothraki and Anti-Dany discussion.  I will do the opposite and post Pro-Dothraki because I am a fan of Dany. 

The people of the city will gladly open its gates and turn in the Lannisters to Dany.  The people will do this because she will be seen as the Targaryen heir to Westeros.  Rhaego is her son and heir.  It matters not who his father is.  As long as he is the biological son of Princess Daenerys Targaryen.  The Dothraki will go through an adjustment after having seen the Sept and all the great things that their Khaleesi's ancestors have built.  The dynamic between Dany and Drogo will change after they enter the city.  I see Drogo bowing to his royal wife. 

Sansa will either be returned to Starks, unmarried.  She may be married off to one of the higher ranking blood brothers of the Khal, if she should find favor in his eyes.  The one most like to happen, Sansa is married to one of the many young lordlings who will help Dany's cause.  The only value to pacifying Robb is to stop the north from further warring and raiding.  The Starks have lost their home and their castle.  It will be Robb who will be asking for a favor.  I would marry Sansa to Jorah.  It's not as if Robb could do anything about it. 

 

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6 hours ago, Lord Lannister said:

Ironically a foreign barbarian horde conquering King's Landing could be the one thing that unites the Seven Kingdoms in resisting them. At least for awhile.

Even Euron's ironborn wasn't enough to make the North and the Reach co-operate with each other, so...

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3 hours ago, Aldarion said:

House Targaryen became the new royal house by conquering Westeros, a.k.a. beating every single army that was sent against them. They showed themselves the top dog in Westeros, and so became rulers.

That is not something Dothraki are capable of. Even if they somehow conquer the King's Landing, that does not give them the rest of Westeros. Even the extremely centralized Byzantine Empire merely fractured when Crusaders conquered the Constantinople, but it did not keel over and die merely because it lost the capital.

If Drogo invades the Westerlands, the Starks and the Martells would be eager to assist.

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What if Khal Drogo's Khalasar captured King's Landing and made Rhaego the King on the Iron Throne?

The matter is settled.  King Rhaego (Dany) holds the capital and the throne.  Anything else coming from the resistance side is just griping and whining.  Soon lords will come to pay their courtesy visit and swear fealty to the Targaryen. 

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10 hours ago, Here's Looking At You, Kid said:

What if Khal Drogo's Khalasar captured King's Landing and made Rhaego the King on the Iron Throne?

The matter is settled.  King Rhaego (Dany) holds the capital and the throne.  Anything else coming from the resistance side is just griping and whining.  Soon lords will come to pay their courtesy visit and swear fealty to the Targaryen. 

Not how it works. It is not enough for somebody to take the capital and say I AM THE KING. He has to actually convince the rest of the kingdoms that he is, in fact, a king, and a king they want to follow. And keep in mind, we're talking about a guy that is half-Dothraki and with a horde of Dothraki at his back.

I mean, by your "logic", rebellion against Aerys will have been completely impossible because he was the king, and held the Iron Throne at the time, and everything coming from the resistance was just griping and whining.

Which ended with a couple of very dead Targaryens and Robert on the Iron Throne.

12 hours ago, Jonsa said:

If Drogo invades the Westerlands, the Starks and the Martells would be eager to assist.

True. And in that case, and only in that case, he actually does have a chance of success. But even so, that is only two kingdoms out of nine.

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On 5/27/2022 at 4:19 PM, Jonsa said:

 

Khal Drogo changed the plan from Viserys to Rhaego after murdering him.

Drogo did that after Robert tried to assassinate Dany. Robert declared war on the Dothraki. This gave Drogo the right to attack Westeros.  This sealed Robert’s fate. If the boar had not, it would have been the Dothraki who would have killed him later.

Rhaego is the son of Daenerys, nephew of the last Targaryen king, grandson of King Aerys, and the son of a mighty khal. His rule will be accepted by most. But Viserys would have been much easier to plant on the throne. Much easier because he’s known and already crowned on Dragonstone. 

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3 hours ago, Aldarion said:

True. And in that case, and only in that case, he actually does have a chance of success. But even so, that is only two kingdoms out of nine.

 A lot of the Reach lords are secret Targaryen sympathizers. After Stannis kills Renly, it's not out of possibility that they could assist Drogo in conquering the Stormlands and crushing Stannis' host.

After Stannis is finished, the Khalasar could then invade the Iron Islands with the help of the Northmen vengeful over the invasion of the ironborn and wipe out House Greyjoy and the Iron Fleet in the process.

Then marry Sansa Stark off to Rhaego, and then, yeah, the Pact of Ice and Fire between the North and the Targaryens/the Dothraki done. 

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24 minutes ago, Moiraine Sedai said:

Drogo did that after Robert tried to assassinate Dany. Robert declared war on the Dothraki. This gave Drogo the right to attack Westeros.  This sealed Robert’s fate. If the boar had not, it would have been the Dothraki who would have killed him later.

Rhaego is the son of Daenerys, nephew of the last Targaryen king, grandson of King Aerys, and the son of a mighty khal. His rule will be accepted by most. But Viserys would have been much easier to plant on the throne. Much easier because he’s known and already crowned on Dragonstone. 

I can see Drogo and Daenerys as regents for Rhaego in his minority.

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On 5/28/2022 at 10:24 AM, SeanF said:

The whole scenario is most unlikely ever to have come to pass but if Drogo slaughtered the Lannisters, and treated Sansa kindly, and wanted her wed to Rhaego, why not?  The Lannisters were the present enemies to the Starks, the Targaryens a previous enemy.

1) Robb wants to remain King.

2) His vassals want him to remain King.

3) The Targaryen are still his enemies.

 

Anyway, this whole scenario is so impossible, it's silly.

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On 5/30/2022 at 5:49 AM, Jonsa said:

I can see Drogo and Daenerys as regents for Rhaego in his minority.

Daenerys, yes. Drogo is a hard no. Being good at a fight is not going to help you rule seven kingdoms of unruly, scheming, annoying as hell, lords and ladies. 

No one will accept a "foreign savage" as regent for the little king. 

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1 hour ago, Jaenara Belarys said:

Daenerys, yes. Drogo is a hard no. Being good at a fight is not going to help you rule seven kingdoms of unruly, scheming, annoying as hell, lords and ladies. 

No one will accept a "foreign savage" as regent for the little king. 

Power is authority. The lords and ladies can scream all they want. It will be the last noise they make before the arakhs grants them the gift of silence.  Liking Drogo isn’t important. Just the will to live.  

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20 hours ago, frenin said:

1) Robb wants to remain King.

2) His vassals want him to remain King.

3) The Targaryen are still his enemies.

 

Anyway, this whole scenario is so impossible, it's silly.

If Drogo then invades the Westerlands, why wouldn't Robb want to join him?

 

3 hours ago, Jaenara Belarys said:

Daenerys, yes. Drogo is a hard no. Being good at a fight is not going to help you rule seven kingdoms of unruly, scheming, annoying as hell, lords and ladies. 

No one will accept a "foreign savage" as regent for the little king. 

How about Drogo as Hand of the King?

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3 hours ago, Moiraine Sedai said:

Power is authority. The lords and ladies can scream all they want. It will be the last noise they make before the arakhs grants them the gift of silence.  Liking Drogo isn’t important. Just the will to live.  

You cant control the land if the lords are against you, the original Targaryen only did so with Dragons, the literal nukes of this universe. The lords will just stay in there Castle and wait out the Dothraki, since they arent enougth to hold the land.

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1 hour ago, Jonsa said:

If Drogo then invades the Westerlands, why wouldn't Robb want to join him?

Robb wanted to invade with whatever Baratheon brother who accepted his deal but he absolutely refused to swear realty to either.

Or in layman's terms, Robb tagging alone in killing Lannisters ≠ Robb bending the knee.

 

 

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On 5/29/2022 at 2:43 PM, Targaryen Restoration said:

Something smells like fish!!!!.  Very fishy.  @Jonsa wants to encourage Anti-Dothraki and Anti-Dany discussion.  I will do the opposite and post Pro-Dothraki because I am a fan of Dany. 

The people of the city will gladly open its gates and turn in the Lannisters to Dany.  The people will do this because she will be seen as the Targaryen heir to Westeros.  Rhaego is her son and heir.  It matters not who his father is.  As long as he is the biological son of Princess Daenerys Targaryen.  The Dothraki will go through an adjustment after having seen the Sept and all the great things that their Khaleesi's ancestors have built.  The dynamic between Dany and Drogo will change after they enter the city.  I see Drogo bowing to his royal wife. 

Sansa will either be returned to Starks, unmarried.  She may be married off to one of the higher ranking blood brothers of the Khal, if she should find favor in his eyes.  The one most like to happen, Sansa is married to one of the many young lordlings who will help Dany's cause.  The only value to pacifying Robb is to stop the north from further warring and raiding.  The Starks have lost their home and their castle.  It will be Robb who will be asking for a favor.  I would marry Sansa to Jorah.  It's not as if Robb could do anything about it. 

 

Dany is the heir and even Drogo will have to recognize her authority as soon as they are in her land of Westeros.  Rhaego is half-Dothraki but it is the Targaryen half that is of great importance to the people of Westeros.  

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16 hours ago, Vaegon the dragonless said:

You cant control the land if the lords are against you, the original Targaryen only did so with Dragons, the literal nukes of this universe. The lords will just stay in there Castle and wait out the Dothraki, since they arent enougth to hold the land.

At least half of Westeros will follow when they see their true Queen, Daenerys.  

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20 hours ago, Jonsa said:

How about Drogo as Hand of the King?

No. Drogo is a warrior, not a politician, not a ruler.  The only government position Drogo would hold is the stablemaster. 

23 hours ago, Moiraine Sedai said:

Power is authority. The lords and ladies can scream all they want. It will be the last noise they make before the arakhs grants them the gift of silence.  Liking Drogo isn’t important. Just the will to live.  

The reason the US and Soviet Union didn't nuke each other was because of mutually assured destruction, and the fact that no one wants to rule a scorched parking lot. 

Besides, Dothraki can't fight in siege conditions. It was literally stated in the first book, but you can keep your delusions. 

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22 hours ago, Jaenara Belarys said:

No. Drogo is a warrior, not a politician, not a ruler.  The only government position Drogo would hold is the stablemaster. 

The reason the US and Soviet Union didn't nuke each other was because of mutually assured destruction, and the fact that no one wants to rule a scorched parking lot. 

Besides, Dothraki can't fight in siege conditions. It was literally stated in the first book, but you can keep your delusions. 

Robert admitted that the lords of Westeros would hide behind their walls and wail like women at the arrival of the Dothraki. The lords of Westeros will soil their pants and faint with fright as soon as the Dothraki starts to attack. Especially the small folk that make up 90 percent of their army.

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