Zorral Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Centrist Simon Steele said: the cops likely don't come from the community They did in Uvalde. They had kids in that school, though I don't think any of the cops there as on duty did. But at least one off-duty cop, or a retired cop, got his kids out of the school. So did one mom who drove there from elsewhere in 40 minutes flat to be there when she heard -- and was restrained by the cops when she yelled at them to go in there. When they took off the cuffs she went over the fence, went to a window and got her kids out. In the meantime the cops stood there. Tywin et al. and Mindwalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, KingintheNorth4 said: It's simply optics. They're still bought and paid for by the NRA's blood money. What it is, is these frackin' cowards are scared somebody will take them out, or try, and they'll get shot themselves. People everywhere are so very very angry with them and the police. The damned gun emporium where the killer bought his weapons has refused to allow journalists in. One reported the owners said, "Not you. You have a notebook and an accent." KingintheNorth4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Returning momentarily to the TX politicos and NRA terror. This is TX. Everybody has guns. Some Uvalde parents were there at the school with their guns, wanting to rush the killer, says a person interviewed by the New Yorker. These people are gop/orange supporters, and gun supporters. They are very very very angry. Further, in that same small report, one of the members of the Uvalde community said, "Something has to be done. Something. Why don't they do something?" But it concludes, when considering the only thing that actually will stop this, making guns so available to anyone, he shook his head and said, essentially, we can't have the government take our guns away. We need them. These aren't Dem 'liberals' who don't even believe in the death penalty, much less have personal arsenals. So, Abbotts and Costellos are scared. Thus cancellation and doing their best not to be visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Zorral said: Returning momentarily to the TX politicos and NRA terror. This is TX. Everybody has guns. Some Uvalde parents were there at the school with their guns, wanting to rush the killer, says a person interviewed by the New Yorker. These people are gop/orange supporters, and gun supporters. They are very very very angry. Further, in that same small report, one of the members of the Uvalde community said, "Something has to be done. Something. Why don't they do something?" But it concludes, when considering the only thing that actually will stop this, making guns so available to anyone, he shook his head and said, essentially, we can't have the government take our guns away. We need them. These aren't Dem 'liberals' who don't even believe in the death penalty, much less have personal arsenals. So, Abbotts and Costellos are scared. Thus cancellation and doing their best not to be visible. Legally seizure of existing legally purchased arms is much more difficult than a prospective ban. I wonder if a ban moving forward is one that gun lovers could stomach so long they keep their beloved security firearms. Edited May 27, 2022 by Ser Scot A Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Read an account from one of the survivors who smeared herself with blood and pretended to be dead, and I just... fuck. cock_merchant, Luzifer's right hand and Mindwalker 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 https://twitter.com/normative/status/1530018539523940358 Quote I suspect this is an underappreciated harm of police militarization: Now cops think it’s not their job to protect people if it involves some risk & they don’t have a tank and a SWAT team. Mindwalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, JGP said: Read an account from one of the survivors who smeared herself with blood and pretended to be dead, and I just... fuck. 11 years old JGP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Zorral said: What it is, is these frackin' cowards are scared somebody will take them out, or try, and they'll get shot themselves. People everywhere are so very very angry with them and the police. The damned gun emporium where the killer bought his weapons has refused to allow journalists in. One reported the owners said, "Not you. You have a notebook and an accent." The NRA convention forbids guns within the event itself, doesn't it? Almost as if they believe that guns are dangerous or something. Larry of the Lake, Inkdaub, Tywin et al. and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Legally seizure of existing legally purchased arms is much more difficult than a prospective ban. I wonder if a ban moving forward is one that gun lovers could stomach so long they keep their beloved security firearms. Being realistic, we're more likely to see a loosening of gun laws, not assault rife bans... Martell Spy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Centrist Simon Steele said: I think it's most likely a subconscious bias, but given how police respond to active shooters in every other situation, the fact that this community is predominantly Latino can't be overlooked IMO. About Texas: Quote We are not a red state. We are a oppressed state. From this twitter thread, from a resident of Uvalde: Fragile Bird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 being more than a little cynical here, but between this massacre and the botched border shutdown that cost Texas billions, Abbot and other conservative politicians might actually be in serious danger of losing their reelection bids - especially since there WILL be other incidents between now and election day. Tywin et al., Kalnestk Oblast, Secretary of Eumenes and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, ThinkerX said: danger of losing their reelection bids One would certainly wish it so. But the Texans themselves, who are furious, who have been voting along, think otherwise because voter suppression. They've FIXED it. They have cleverly and patiently created the very world they wanted, and now they've got it, and they're keeping it -- unless it is taken from them again by the point of a gun, which is how they did it, along with a lot of other strategies. When they begin shooting at each other, it really shall be Armageddon. Edited May 27, 2022 by Zorral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) Not that it'll do much good... Btw, Candace Owens helped spread the completely unsubstantiated rumor (apparently originating from 4chan) that the shooter was transsexual... In other news: Edited May 27, 2022 by Mindwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Perspective... Mindwalker and Fragile Bird 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said: Perspective... If there had been an adult armed nearby with their own lawn dart, that wouldn’t have happened. So sayeth the gun lobby logic. Edited May 28, 2022 by A True Kaniggit Mindwalker, Inkdaub and Tywin et al. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, A True Kaniggit said: If there had been an adult armed nearby with their own lawn dart that wouldn’t have happened. So sayeth the gun lobby logic. Funny part is I was born in 88 and I only know about lawn darts because of Me, Myself and Irene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Funny part is I was born in 88 and I only know about lawn darts because of Me, Myself and Irene. Ha. I was born in 91. I only know about them because of Jeff Foxworthy. “You could kill an elk with a lawn dart” Tywin et al. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) I am still trying to wrap my head around this. Uvalde spends almost half of its budget on its police force (which I still find excessive, but hey America). They even keep their own SWAT team, and yet they wanted to wait for a special team from outside. So what does Uvalde's actually keep a SWAT team for? I mean, surely not just for pathetic photo ops in their gear. Edited May 28, 2022 by A Horse Named Stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I just looked at my Facebook page and saw that a woman who punched an airline stewardess got 15 months in jail and a substantial fine. More than most of the convicted participants in the January 6th mob attack in Washington have been sentenced so far! DireWolfSpirit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkdaub Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 13 hours ago, DanteGabriel said: The NRA convention forbids guns within the event itself, doesn't it? They keep saying this on the news and I can't help but feel it's all anyone really needs to know about these people. As a game I'll try and spin it and I never rise above complete bullshit. Good news is we are all so completely under control bullshit is more than enough. 5 hours ago, A True Kaniggit said: “You could kill an elk with a lawn dart” We had them when I was a kid and Foxworthy is probably right. We called them jarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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