Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: No argument. But this could have been Trump claiming the Presidency and using the military and law enforcement to keep it in the face of civil uprisings. That would have been way worse. Sure, but I'm not here to give credit or praise to people who showed 1% of decency given what the other 99% of their contributions were. They all could have stopped it from ever getting this far, but they didn't because they were either cowards, self-serving or both. There is no redemption arc for these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: The bar is lower than roots in the ground. And didn't he add a sentence to the ceremony, something like "Are there any objections?" 16 minutes ago, Trebla said: Especially since Trump said he wouldn't be his friend anymore if he didn't overturn the election. Trump also said it would be "cool" if Pence did do it. Even after all this time it still amazes me what a moron he is. While it sounds childish, it'a also like mob speak... "You know what happens iof you're not my friend anymore..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Sure, but I'm not here to give credit or praise to people who showed 1% of decency given what the other 99% of their contributions were. They all could have stopped it from ever getting this far, but they didn't because they were either cowards, self-serving or both. There is no redemption arc for these people. A fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I can't read this letter on my laptop, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: We’re lucky Pence retained some principles through the Trump Administration… Pence's principles/ethical code is that he should personally make healthcare/reproductive choices for all women in America. And anything that detracts from that mission is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, Martell Spy said: Pence's principles/ethical code is that he should personally make healthcare/reproductive choices for all women in America. And anything that detracts from that mission is bad. I think he’s wrong on that. I’m still pleased he didn’t do what Trump wanted him to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Y'all do know that the price for having 'Darth Cheney on our side in this means she'll one day be your president, right? She's clearly playing the long game ... Good news: ETA: I just read that Judge Luttig is a stroke survivor, so now I feel terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Mindwalker said: ETA: I just read that Judge Luttig is a stroke survivor, so now I feel terrible. I thought that might be the case. His speaking is slow, but I thought his mind is sharp and he was able to communicate his thoughts quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reny of Storms End Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 hours ago, KalVsWade said: Also, the things you're arguing about are based on faith, not math. You're trying to convince zealots that their God doesn't exist. He is just proselytizing at this point, virtue signaling that he has the right thought patterns and expresses the right faith. You don't convince people like that with facts and data and explanations. To be fair, you don't do that for people in general, but especially not for people like this. You either deprogram them or you ignore them or they kill you. Thank you for trying. I know it's not about math, just wanted to razz him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Trebla said: Especially since Trump said he wouldn't be his friend anymore if he didn't overturn the election. Trump also said it would be "cool" if Pence did do it. Even after all this time it still amazes me what a moron he is. I have watched enough Scorsese movies to think that this sounds like Mafia talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 6 hours ago, KalVsWade said: Again, yall are arguing in good faith with someone who genuinely believes masks don't work and big pharma is responsible for covid and only posts when drunk. Not all drunks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, LongRider said: I thought that might be the case. His speaking is slow, but I thought his mind is sharp and he was able to communicate his thoughts quite well. Oh, I didn't think his mind was muddled, just that he was extremely long-winded (and also very slow). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, Mindwalker said: Oh, I didn't think his mind was muddled, just that he was extremely long-winded (and also very slow). No worries, he was rather difficult to listen too. So, in today's testimony, we saw an email where Eastman mentioned to Rudy G. that he wanted to be on the pardon list, if that was still available. The day before it was Jared mentioning that he was busy getting many pardons done. So, it seems that at that time pardons we a bit of commodity. Was there a list floating around somewhere? Wonder what the going price was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, LongRider said: No worries, he was rather difficult to listen too. So, in today's testimony, we saw an email where Eastman mentioned to Rudy G. that he wanted to be on the pardon list, if that was still available. The day before it was Jared mentioning that he was busy getting many pardons done. So, it seems that at that time pardons we a bit of commodity. Was there a list floating around somewhere? Wonder what the going price was. I would be shocked if they… weren’t selling pardons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I recollect at the time it was commonly reported that pardons were for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I would be shocked if they… weren’t selling pardons. Me too! A random thought, the shock of the J6 insurgents if they had had to find out that pardons from Trump aren’t free. Suckers, surely there were those that assumed that pardons, if needed, were part of the program. Oppsie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zorral said: I recollect at the time it was commonly reported that pardons were for sale. Makes sense, these crooks will squeeze every $$ and every drop of blood out of their marks, no matter who they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I think those pardons could be sturck down in court (even if they were not paid for), and then when it gets taken to SCOTUS... oh, nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Zorral said: I recollect at the time it was commonly reported that pardons were for sale. There were stories floating for sure. And while it's illegal, it might also not be all that hard to circumvent being held accountable for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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