International Events IX: I feel like a mushroom

[Luzifer's right hand]

1 hour ago, Spockydog said:

Nord Stream 1: Russia switches off gas pipeline

Russia has stopped the flow of gas via the Nord Stream 1 pipeline to Europe, citing the need to carry out repairs, in a move that has heightened already acute nervousness over the reliability of winter energy supplies.

They have one working compressor afaik. Start up tends to be the most critical part of running one. Would not surprise me if it broke by "accident".

[kiko]

11 hours ago, Luzifer's right hand said:

They have one working compressor afaik. Start up tends to be the most critical part of running one. Would not surprise me if it broke by "accident".

Anyway, it's too late. 

[Loge]

Another one falls out of a window in Russia:

https://www.politico.eu/article/chairman-of-russian-oil-producer-lukoil-dies-after-reportedly-falling-out-of-window/

[The Anti-Targ]

A defenestration epidemic wave washing over Russia? What's the cause I wonder.

[Winterfell is Burning]

15 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said:

A defenestration epidemic wave washing over Russia? What's the cause I wonder.

I think you mean a string of unfortunate coincidences, comrade.

[Zorral]

Illustrated again that misogyny, authoritarianism walk hand-in-hand (along with nationalist religious bigotry as well).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/03/india-women-instagram-xaviers-university/

 

[Zorral]

Argentina Reels From Assassination Attempt on Its Powerful Vice President
The man who the authorities believe tried to shoot Cristina Fernández de Kirchner showed an interest in a mix of fringe ideologies, including the far right, his social media showed

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/02/world/americas/argentina-assassination-attempt-kirchner.html?

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.... Mr. Montiel, who is registered with tax authorities as an Uber driver, appeared to be steeped in an eclectic mix of fringe ideologies and interests, including the far right, according to his apparent tattoos and social-media profiles. He liked dozens of Facebook pages connected to far-right groups, conspiracy theories, mysticism, free masonry, alchemy and kabbalah, among other things.

Photos he posted to social media showed that he had what appeared to be a version of the Black Sun, a neo-Nazi symbol, tattooed on his left elbow. And for some time, he used the symbol of the Tyrodal Order of Knights, a fringe, far-right Argentine group from the 1980s, as his Facebook profile photo.

Many of the Facebook pages he liked, including of groups devoted to paganism, Vikings, death metal and certain philosophers, do not on their own indicate a connection to the far right. But when taken together, they are a common collection of interests of someone on the far right, said Boris Matias Grinchpun, a historian and lecturer at the University of Buenos Aires who studies the history of the far right in Argentina.

“It’s like a supermarket basket,” he said. “When you see what this person is buying in the free market of ideology — he takes a little bit of Gnosticism, a little bit of Nimrod de Rosario, a little bit of Viking — so when I see this basket, I know that he’s a far-right customer.”

Federico Finchelstein, a historian at the New School who is from Argentina and studies populism and fascism in Latin America, said that Mr. Montiel appeared to fit the profile of other recent mass gunmen or terrorists. He said those men had identified with the far right but were not deeply connected to any political movement, listing as examples the perpetrators of attacks in Norway; Christchurch, New Zealand; Buffalo; and El Paso.

“They’re not explicitly connected to an organization but yet they relate to a fascist ideology,” he said. ....

 

 

[DireWolfSpirit]

Crazy duo leaving a trail of dead stabbing victims throughout Saskatchewan, Canada.

10 dead and 15 injured or some horible amount. Perps still on the lam!
 
 10 dead, 15 injured after stabbing spree in Canada, 2 suspects at large 
 
https://nypost.com/2022/09/04/10-dead-15-injured-in-canada-stabbing-spree-2-suspects-at-large?utm_source=drive&utm_campaign=android_nyp
 

[Winterfell is Burning]

Chile has rejected it's new, more left-leaning Constitution

The defeat was even bigger than polls anticipated.

Now, I'm by no means an expert or great observer of Chile's politics and society, but even I saw that coming- left-wing groups overreached, as it's common around these parts, because they really didn't need the votes of conservative members, and many were first time politicians.

[TheLastWolf]

13 hours ago, Zorral said:

Illustrated again that misogyny, authoritarianism walk hand-in-hand (along with nationalist religious bigotry as well).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/03/india-women-instagram-xaviers-university/

 

I'm not a subscriber like many, could you sum up for our benefit?

 

Meanwhile Magsaysay

 

 

[TheLastWolf]

4 minutes ago, TheLastWolf said:

I'm not a subscriber like many, could you sum up for our benefit?

 

Never mind

https://theconversation.com/a-professor-in-india-lost-her-job-over-a-bikini-photo-on-instagram-what-does-this-say-about-misogyny-188627

[Zorral]

Biden has renewed the draconian destructive policies toward Cuba, that super international terrorist nation.

 

[Conflicting Thought]

16 hours ago, Winterfell is Burning said:

Chile has rejected it's new, more left-leaning Constitution

The defeat was even bigger than polls anticipated.

Now, I'm by no means an expert or great observer of Chile's politics and society, but even I saw that coming- left-wing groups overreached, as it's common around these parts, because they really didn't need the votes of conservative members, and many were first time politicians.

hi, im from chile, in your opinion, in  wich way did the left overreached?

in my opinion in was the contrary, its was a very compromosing consitutional draft, it wasnt a far left constitution.

[Winterfell is Burning]

52 minutes ago, Conflicting Thought said:

hi, im from chile, in your opinion, in  wich way did the left overreached?

in my opinion in was the contrary, its was a very compromosing consitutional draft, it wasnt a far left constitution.

Well, far from me to argue with someone who probably knows far more from the political situation and society than me, but it's clear most voters disagree with you (and even Ricardo Lagos called it very partisan).

While it seems nice to add 100 rights to the Constitution (more than any other country) and change radically the country's structures, it's not cheap, and it's not clear where the money would come from at all from what I gather.

Also, living in Brazil, I can tell you Constitutions that are too extensive result in far more problems than they are worth (and Chile's would be even bigger).

[Rippounet]

4 hours ago, Conflicting Thought said:

in my opinion in was the contrary, its was a very compromosing consitutional draft, it wasnt a far left constitution.

Would you give us your thoughts on why it was rejected?

[The Anti-Targ]

Perhaps constitutions are over-rated. There are a lot of countries that do not have a document called a constitution, and we seem to manage ourselves without collapsing into chaos and disorder.

[Conflicting Thought]

3 hours ago, Rippounet said:

Would you give us your thoughts on why it was rejected?

Well im still procesing it, because although i thought it wasnt radical enough, it was still a very important process, with gender parity, idegenous participation, and it would have been the end of pinochet constitution. It was a hostoric moment...but,the people here has fully bought into capitalism and there was a ver very heavy campaing from the right and the empresarios,  who own the news channels and newspapers (sorry, cant think of the word right now), who also invested allot of money on bots and  social media dirty campaing spreding lies talking about  that the new constitution would take their houses, make it impossible for people to own their house, they talked about expropiation, exploting the anti comunist sentiment, that is very strong here. They also exploited the very real racism, that permeates chilean society, with the mapuche, and xenophobia to. They were saying that the indigenous people would have specail rights, that they would have MORE rights than "chilean" people. All of witch was not true. But you cant fight fake news by saying the truth,and they did have far superior propaganda machine, the spend so much more money than the "left" it was 10 to 1.

And there where also allot of mistakes from our part, from so many different angles. 

They appealed to emotion and we couldnt deal with that, couldnt change the narrative.

I belive that social media had a huge impact on the result. Much more than people think. And its just so hard to know how to fight that.

[Conflicting Thought]

7 hours ago, Winterfell is Burning said:

Well, far from me to argue with someone who probably knows far more from the political situation and society than me, but it's clear most voters disagree with you (and even Ricardo Lagos called it very partisan).

While it seems nice to add 100 rights to the Constitution (more than any other country) and change radically the country's structures, it's not cheap, and it's not clear where the money would come from at all from what I gather.

Also, living in Brazil, I can tell you Constitutions that are too extensive result in far more problems than they are worth (and Chile's would be even bigger).

Ricardo lagos sold his soul to capitalism, he privatized the roads, and continued the eork of the chicago boys.he is seen as a traitor in the left. 

It was not a radical constitution. Even the frente amplio, a liberal conglomeration of "center left" parties, one of those parties is convergencia social, boric party, where very consiliatory with the right and moderated their positions allot, including boicoting the more " radical" aspects of the new constitution. 

[Winterfell is Burning]

I don't know about Lagos, but that still doesn't answer the other problems I mentioned though.

Also, again, without being any sort of specialist, I've seen too much this "we only lost because of fake news and crooked capitalists destroying us" stuff from the left to really buy that.

Reminds me of the left here blaming Bolsonaro's election in fake news and conspiracies about the US wanting Brazil's oil rather than admitting it was because their policies left to economic disaster, tens of billions of dollars stolen by corruption, and that Lula stimulated political polarization, but didn't expect someone from the right rising with a similar attitude. 

Of course, apples and oranges and all that, but this kind of "is everyone's fault but our own" mentality is far too common around these parts, which explains why so many countries change administrations radically, but seemingly learn nothing.

[Rippounet]

7 minutes ago, Winterfell is Burning said:

Also, again, without being any sort of specialist, I've seen too much this "we only lost because of fake news and crooked capitalists destroying us" stuff from the left to really buy that.

Because media concentration and influence definitely isn't a thing, eh? 

My numbers are from 2020, but in Chile, concentration for the press is 75% to 80 (Copesa and El Mecurio), and around 90% for television. Apparently just 4 companies control 90% of the media advertisement market.
When you have such numbers in a country (any country), you can bet that it's not about "left versus right" but about "the people versus the oligarchy."  What one should wonder is what stupid controversies/debates/lies the oligarchy used this time. Because of course, the oligarchy doesn't have the habit of going quietly, especially not in Chile of all places.