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On 8/28/2022 at 1:04 AM, Bowen 747 said:

Very true. Jon and Arya are the worst of the Starks and their wolves are still kicking.  It could be that the wolves die when the Starks betray the North.  Which Robb did when he executed Rickard Karstark and hooked up with Jeyne Westerling.  He put the North in danger by betraying a key ally in Walder Frey.  The Starks are not honorable.  They are savages.  But they are expected to act in such a way as to serve the North.  When they don't, it is a betrayal of the wolves who are creatures of the North.  Sansa supported/backed Joffrey's lie and betrayed the Northern lad.  Little Mycah's death is partly her fault.  By this reasoning, Ghost is the next to die because Jon betrayed the North, the Watch, and Westeros.   

Nym is killing and destroying even though she is not provoked.  Arya is the same way.  Like girl like wolf. 

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On 9/14/2022 at 9:13 AM, Moiraine Sedai said:

Sansa doesn’t have a direwolf. It will be permanent death when she dies.  That won’t happen this soon.

Not unless she finds another familiar

On 11/8/2022 at 10:47 AM, Craving Peaches said:

I can see it now, a new thread "The Starks and their relation to the Vale Savages". Then we will be told that they all are related to Craster and sacrifice babies to the evil trees until the TargAryan saviours came to end the practice.

I do think that the Starks and the Vale savages are related in a way.

 

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On 9/10/2022 at 1:46 AM, The Lord of the Crossing said:

Summer will End.  So yes, Summer will die.  It is the symbolic end to summer and the arrival of winter.  The deaths of the direwolves indicates the passing of an important event.  The death of Lady exposed the hubris and hypocrisy of the Starks.  Greywind, the grey morality of Robb Stark and the fall of his house.  Summer's death will sever Bran's connection to warmth and bring winter. 

Grey Wind's death does symbolize the death of the grey morality of the Starks and their allies. In the first third of the series, the Starks are grey: Robb, Catelyn and Eddard all make several really bad mistakes, but they also have some less than pristine values and standards.

I believe that Summer will be the next direwolf to die. So, when he dies, it will symbolize both the beginning of true winter (that is to say, the Long Night) and the real end of Bran's childhood. From then on, Bran will be forced to completely changed the way that Bran acts or thinks. Probably a mixture of both.

But Lady? If anything, Lady's death exposed the hubris, decadence, corruption and injustice of southern lords and their courts. It was a warning for all the Starks and a death to Sansa's childhood dreams.

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1 hour ago, BlackLightning said:

I do think that the Starks and the Vale savages are related in a way.

I agree, both likely descend from the 'First Men', follow the Old Gods and such. But I don't think they are evil, tree worshipping savages (most people don't think this either but a few of the same keep on repeatedly making this claim).

I think the Vale Tribes may have a tragic backstory as being the original human inhabitants of the Vale who were dispossessed when the Andals came and have suffered culturally as a result of being forced out into the Wilderness.

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1 hour ago, Craving Peaches said:

I agree, both likely descend from the 'First Men', follow the Old Gods and such. But I don't think they are evil, tree worshipping savages (most people don't think this either but a few of the same keep on repeatedly making this claim).

I think the Vale Tribes may have a tragic backstory as being the original human inhabitants of the Vale who were dispossessed when the Andals came and have suffered culturally as a result of being forced out into the Wilderness.

Right.

That said, I do think it is possible that the evil, tree-worshipping savage trope that the First Men (namely the Starks) are ascribed to is probably true. The Starks are the type of conquerors that would make Aegon and his sisters blush.

 

Every time I read about the Vale Mountain clans...it's giving Trail of Tears, Custer's Last Stand, Dances with Wolves, Wounded Knee...

I'm sure it is a tragic story. Sansa loves a tragic story, especially if it is romantic and dramatic. I'm sure that she will come across the original Valemen in The Winds of Winter and they will sorta serve as her own personal army. She'll give them what they need to stand a chance of surviving the Long Night and they'll give her what she needs to get rid of Littlefinger.

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