Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 16 hours ago, Floki of the Ironborn said: So glad that someone said it. Tyrion being a secret Targaryen who gets to fly a dragon? Utter doss. I don't know why everyone is so eager to have that happen, it would completely undo everything that's been established about Tyrion and Tywin's relationship. I can't speak for everyone, but Dany, Jon and Tyrion spend the whole story getting beaten over the head with their fathers' legacies. Their characters are all shaped by other peoples' opinions of who and what they should be and become growing up in Aerys', Ned and Tywin's shadows. I think it would be a little bit of irony for each of them that the legacy that they were trying so hard to either emulate or escape wasn't actually for them anyway. I also think the whole salt and smoke thing is as likely to be about an obscured heritage as about a place and though I'm not sure there will be a definitive AA reborn, I think we'll continue to be teased with the possibility. Anyway, not to launch into a whole defense here, but those are some of the reasons why I think Tyrion isn't Tywin's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Reading today that HBO is making a Jon Snow spinoff... Stay fucking dead, Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Victarion's entire mission is just to die and get killed in Essos. I hate pointless stories that go nowhere. Quentyn Martell's was bad enough, I hope we don't get a second one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takiedevushkikakzvezdy Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, sifth said: Victarion's entire mission is just to die and get killed in Essos. I hate pointless stories that go nowhere. Quentyn Martell's was bad enough, I hope we don't get a second one. To be honest, there's nowhere else to go with Victarion. Personally, I don't mind him going to Essos and dying there, but I hate that he has to be a POV character for it. It just takes up valuable page space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Takiedevushkikakzvezdy said: To be honest, there's nowhere else to go with Victarion. Personally, I don't mind him going to Essos and dying there, but I hate that he has to be a POV character for it. It just takes up valuable page space. The guy is a comedy factory though. I hate stories that go nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, Aejohn the Conqueroo said: Reading today that HBO is making a Jon Snow spinoff... Stay fucking dead, Jon. Unless he gets resurrected and comes back wrong, as GRRM likes to do since he doesn't like Gandalf coming back (he also forgets that Gandalf runs on a different set of rules). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, sifth said: The guy is a comedy factory though. I hate stories that go nowhere. I hope that when the story's been told Vic's chapters are obviously intrinsically relevant. Like you say he's a comedy factory and his last chapter is one of my favorites in the whole series. I would be very disappointed to find out that it was all meaningless meandering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 48 minutes ago, Angel Eyes said: Unless he gets resurrected and comes back wrong, as GRRM likes to do since he doesn't like Gandalf coming back (he also forgets that Gandalf runs on a different set of rules). I haven't been a fan of theories that bring Jon back as some sort of NK or any sort of bad guy that betrays who he was in his life, until now. I hope Martin makes him as awful as the stark haters on this site make him out to be just to shit all over that sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenin Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I want Euron to be the biggest troll out there and a fucking liar. I dislike so much all the theories surrounding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Claude Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, frenin said: I want Euron to be the biggest troll out there and a fucking liar. I dislike so much all the theories surrounding him. Have you read that Aeron chapter from TWOW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 To be honest, I'm hoping the trope that Jon being the hidden prince, savior and so on is subverted. For a book that's defying the modern fantasy conventions it seems to center around that hidden prince trope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron the Daring Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Love how much we love to cancel certain popular theories only because we think it would ruin the story for us, altough we have approximately no clue on the execution of these supposed plotlines. I'm more than sure not everyone will be satisfied with any ending, if there'll be any, but I think having an open mind to anything is the best attitude. That being said, I'd hate if Tyrion was a secret Targ. I see it happening, I don't like it. Would it ruin the story for me? No, the one thing I've learned regarding ASOIAF is that the story reaches further than any character, even the most popular and important ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenin Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Canon Claude said: Have you read that Aeron chapter from TWOW? Yeah, all the more reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takiedevushkikakzvezdy Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, frenin said: Yeah, all the more reason. Some are speculating that Euron will be the final main villain after the Others are defeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 20 hours ago, frenin said: I want Euron to be the biggest troll out there and a fucking liar. I dislike so much all the theories surrounding him. An evil man who knows some magic, who’s persuaded himself that he’s an eldritch god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, SeanF said: An evil man who knows some magic, who’s persuaded himself that he’s an eldritch god. plus Spoiler https://www.sonymusic.co.uk/pete-burns-1959-2016/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Stark Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 15 hours ago, Daeron the Daring said: Love how much we love to cancel certain popular theories only because we think it would ruin the story for us, altough we have approximately no clue on the execution of these supposed plotlines. I'm more than sure not everyone will be satisfied with any ending, if there'll be any, but I think having an open mind to anything is the best attitude. That being said, I'd hate if Tyrion was a secret Targ. I see it happening, I don't like it. Would it ruin the story for me? No, the one thing I've learned regarding ASOIAF is that the story reaches further than any character, even the most popular and important ones. Yeah, I see what you mean. There's really no subversive outcome to ASOIAF that would ruin the series for me, other than a character waking up to find the whole series was just a weird fever dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 generally, I wouldn't hate any theory specifically if it's well written . but right now I'd be happy only to see the series finished , no matter how many odd plotlines and stupid conclusions it's got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/18/2022 at 1:05 AM, Takiedevushkikakzvezdy said: To be honest, there's nowhere else to go with Victarion. Personally, I don't mind him going to Essos and dying there, but I hate that he has to be a POV character for it. It just takes up valuable page space. Dany's admiral has lost his head just as Vic arrives, he'll lead her fleet back to Westeros in the least, and is a prime candidate for a second life when he does die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Princling Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 One thing I would dislike is if Tyrion turned out to be half Targ. It would ruin the irony of Tywin hating the child who was in many ways the most like his father. Other than that, I do not really hate any theory as long as it fits into the story and is well written. EDIT: R+L =J would be pretty boring. I know it is true, but imo there are more interesting theories about R+L out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.