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Here's your instance of conservative troglodytery to meditate on today:

I guess these numbfucks don't count the decades of gas price supports as worth anything?

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3 hours ago, DanteGabriel said:

Previous thread on to its 21st page.

Here's your instance of conservative troglodytery to meditate on today:

I guess these numbfucks don't count the decades of gas price supports as worth anything?

Troglodyte is the perfect term for these douchecanoes.

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2 hours ago, DanteGabriel said:

I guess these numbfucks don't count the decades of gas price supports as worth anything?

I have read the bill just now. It's shit, no question, but it turns out that the headline is slightly misleading.

The bill's actual focus is on forcing businesses which provide free EV charging to also provide all customers with receipts showing some kind of pro rata share of what it cost that customer, out of the price of their purchases, to provide free EV charging.

The spending of public money to wreck private businesses is just an afterthought, for purposes of enforcement. Any free EV charging stations which don't comply with this law are subject to removal on the public dime.

I get that it's a bullshit bill, but I still prefer to imagine what a genuinely well-meaning person might have intended.

So, let's assume the receipts are presently deficient. What new costs should be included to make it fair? Just the electricity? Is there depreciation included for the charging station equipment? Service maintenance? Then there's a question of cost timing. I'm not clear how a pro rata share can be allocated until the close of a period. So, how will the pro rata be calculated on each receipt? Is it the past 365 days up to the time of the present sale? Is it the past 24 hours up to the present sale? Is it based on a projection?

Let's say the pro rata is based on one of those first couple of options, with a window which keeps moving. That leaves no consistency across receipts, since the division will change every time somebody buys more fuel or charges their EV. That lack of consistency only increases confusion and unfairness. Let's say that it's based on a projection. The customer will never really know whether the figure is accurate, because the accuracy will only be proved at period's end. 

Even assuming the fairness/transparency formula could be found, this is a solution in search of a problem. The bill's presumed intention (assuming good faith, of course) is to protect the fuel purchaser. The poor shlub has no idea how much they're paying to keep those dumb baby-killing libs on the road! But, of course, the fuel purchaser does not pay for anyone else's free service, because the vendor does. It comes out of the vendor's profits -- in the exact same way that spoiled merchandise, employee wages, and maintenance costs do. The alleged problem to be fixed, therefore, namely unfair receipts, does not exist.

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1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said:

When your main policy goal is owning the Libs, killing yourself in the process is a virtues path to walk. 

Cancelling their nose to own their face is the new right wing obsession.

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4 hours ago, DanteGabriel said:

Previous thread on to its 21st page.

Here's your instance of conservative troglodytery to meditate on today:

I guess these numbfucks don't count the decades of gas price supports as worth anything?

WE WANT SOCIALIZED GASOLINE! :commie:

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.... Behind all this, of course, is the ravening GOP base, which loves Donald Trump precisely because, in the most deeply perverse way possible, he isn’t a phony, or at least not the same kind of phony as Kevin McCarthy and Lindsey Graham.   Trump doesn’t even pretend to care about anything other than his mind-blowingly petty hunger for celebrity, which in Washington DC —  a town that is Hollywood for ugly people, academia for stupid people, and high school for people who never grew up – makes him a kind of paragon of certain especially disgusting form of authenticity.

At the moment, we’re in the grip of yet another wave of wishful thinking that Trump is losing “relevance,” that he’s going to be displaced by Ron DeSantis or some other smooth-talking aspiring fascist, and that he’s fated to fade away.  I don’t think so, because Donald Trump still owns Kevin McCarthy and Lindsey Graham and the rest of them. ....

 

         - - - - Paul Campos, vibing with this description of the relationship of Lindsey Graham, Kevin McCarthy and the romperisto, here, in the Atlantic (paywall):

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/kevin-mccarthy-lindsey-graham-trump-devotion-2024-election/661508/

Naturally romperisto is now doing this, raking in shytetons of moola -- these ticket fees for his campaign rallies aren't going into a campaign fund, needless to say, but of course into the personal pocket of the first POTUS to own a D.C. hotel that was Bribery Ctr. Numero Uno.  How much anyone want to bet that none of this is being reported to the IRS either.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/07/07/trump-for-profit-speeches-american-freedom-tour/

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Frankenstein just allowed Igor to testify!

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Steve Bannon – who defied a congressional subpoena and is set to go to trial on criminal contempt charges – told the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, insurrection on Saturday that he is now willing to testify, ideally at a public hearing, according to a letter obtained by CNN.

Bannon’s reversal comes after he received a letter from former President Donald Trump waiving executive privilege, although both the House select committee and federal prosecutors contend that privilege claim never gave Bannon carte blanche to ignore a congressional subpoena in the first place.

“When you first received the Subpoena to testify and provide documents, I invoked Executive Privilege. However, I watched how unfairly you and others have been treated, having to spend vast amounts of money on legal fees, and all of the trauma you must be going through for the love of your Country, and out of respect for the Office of the President,” Trump wrote in a Saturday letter to Bannon, which was also obtained by CNN.

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2 minutes ago, DMC said:

Steve Bannon – who defied a congressional subpoena and is set to go to trial on criminal contempt charges – told the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, insurrection on Saturday that he is now willing to testify, ideally at a public hearing, according to a letter obtained by CNN.

Oh, thy might let him testify before the cameras, but not until he testifies before the Committee behind closed doors.  Let him go on w/o that, no way. 

5 minutes ago, DMC said:

“When you first received the Subpoena to testify and provide documents, I invoked Executive Privilege. However, I watched how unfairly you and others have been treated, having to spend vast amounts of money on legal fees, and all of the trauma you must be going through for the love of your Country, and out of respect for the Office of the President,” Trump wrote in a Saturday letter to Bannon, which was also obtained by CNN.

Oh, the lovely sound of 45 throwing the wino bum under the bus in the morning.    :lol:

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Well, no.  That isn't what this is -- or not.  It's all such bullshyte since there was no means or mechanism for Executive Privilege in this situation any way.  It's w/o meaning -- no there there.  So of course it makes no sense because it doesn't make sense.

They Say that Tuesday's Jan 06 hearing will focus on the violent domestic extremist groups and leaders.  There are no other words for this, and fewer and fewer as more and more dots and characters and actions get connected in interconnecting testimony, videos and self-incriminations -- other than They gave us a traitorous insurrection and called it an election.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Zorral said:

It's all such bullshyte since there was no means or mechanism for Executive Privilege in this situation any way.

Of course the EP claim was bullshit.  Doesn't change the fact Bannon is testifying cuz Trump let him.

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25 minutes ago, Zorral said:

And why he's 'allowing' Bannon to testify (but it isn't an invitation to accept or not -- he's been subpoenaed):

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-steve-bannon-january-6/

 

From a Trumpian perspective it is a win-win. Regardless of what Bannon actually says, team Trump will spin it as 'standing up to the democratic socialist communist ruining the country,' bolstered with highly selective excerpts. This in turn will feed into the whole 'stolen election' meme. Then, should Bannon actually face something resembling a criminal penalty, he becomes a martyr for the cause.

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18 minutes ago, DireWolfSpirit said:

Wasn't Bannon supposed to be getting prosecuted over the fraud and theft of donations for the border wall scam?

Again where's the AG?

Didn’t Trump pardon him over that?

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