SeanF Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Aldarion said: Agreed, but cruelty is a tool of economic exploitation, it is not an end into itself. I never denied that - what I pointed out was that these slave revolts never actually succeeded in achieving anything. As much as people like the story of "heroic rebels", "heroic resistance fighters" and so on - it is all bullshit. Vast majority of revolts and revolutions fail, and of those that succeed, vast majority succeed due to external support. Those that do not succeed due to external support succeed because they were coopted by the powerful and rich within the society itself - such as the French Revolution which was used by the bankers, nobility and other rich people to end the French absolutism. Agreed, but - see above. Haiti, sugar colonies and these parts of South were however elements of the larger society, meaning that if the slaves revolted, they could receive external help. On the level of society as a whole, slaves were always a minority, if sometimes a very significant one. In general, for a revolt to succeed, at least a substantial proportion of the regular armed forces have to switch sides. That’s one reason why the Haitians succeeded. Some of their leaders were French army officers, and Polish soldiers switched en masse. The Eastern slavers are stupid to rely upon (a) slaves (b) sellswords to form the bulk of their armed forces. In reality, these groups would have seized power, like the Mamelukes and Janissaries. Once the slavers have lost groups like the Unsullied, Tiger soldiers, the Windblown and Second Sons, they’re on the ropes. Targaryen_Fangirl and Aldarion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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