DaveSumm Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Seems to me the basic problem is, Rishi and Liz are both courting Tory party members for their vote. And what’s the overlap between Tory members and those who genuinely will have to decide between heating and eating? Could it be zero? It might be zero. Whole different ball game if it’s a general election, but sadly it isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 I believe the situation is that businesses are not included in the cost cap, so their energy increases can just go berserk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 45 minutes ago, DaveSumm said: Nah, surely not. That’s over 1000% increase, things are bad but they’re not that bad. And those levels would be 20 times what qualifies as hyperinflation. Something’s off with that math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horangi Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: And those levels would be 20 times what qualifies as hyperinflation. Something’s off with that math. Yeah unless there is something uniquely awful going on in the UK that prevents trading on the international market, somethings off. Natural Gas price has about doubled since the beginning of the year, which, is ya know: not great, not terrible. I understand there are some other contributing factors (a power transmission station to the mainland down etc), but not sure how that translates into that kind of spike. You'd think that a country as vulnerable to naval blockade and few domestic sources of energy would have a massive strategic reserve to tap into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, horangi said: Yeah unless there is something uniquely awful going on in the UK that prevents trading on the international market, somethings off. Natural Gas price has about doubled since the beginning of the year, which, is ya know: not great, not terrible. I understand there are some other contributing factors (a power transmission station to the mainland down etc), but not sure how that translates into that kind of spike. You'd think that a country as vulnerable to naval blockade and few domestic sources of energy would have a massive strategic reserve to tap into. Yep. Inflation at that rate is basically what Zimbabwe was facing in 2005-06 before their inflation spiral out and was comparable to numbers seen in some post-WW2 countries. I can't imagine inflation getting anywhere close to a 20th of that in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 As multiple people note in the Twitter thread, including people working in the actual energy sector, there are no price caps on commercial energy use. They can charge whatever the fuck they want. In addition, some people have been on fixed-price tariffs for years to get energy cheap under the old prices. So companies can pull them off those prices (which they probably could have done years ago, but people using industrial amounts of energy are usually good customers and it's worthwhile to keep them around even at a lower price) and put them on a new price at will. I have a suspicion some sort of algorithm has been applied and a lot of these people will challenge these prices and get them lowered (because it's not actually remotely affordable), but it's still going to be rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 I wonder how the people of France managed to avoid this shit, eh? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 What an enormous fucking cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Surely energy price hikes of that level will actually just blow up the economy by sending a huge number of small businesses bust? Their margins are normally too tight to handle that sort of increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Spockydog said: What an enormous fucking cunt. Sunak presumably had made plans for the pool, before he registered his ready for richy website. But anyway, anybody who builds a pool into their private homes/backyards is an enormous cunt. Hard to find a more frivolous way to waste waster. But the timing of that news item breaking, just when the NFU tells those two clowns to start tackling immoral wastage of water... It's almost like the timing of the leak was on purpose, but surely not with the Tories. Anyway, in Liz we Truss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I'm just stuck on how expensive the pool is. Its not a particularly pretentious thing to have by Aus standards but that seems really expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loge Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, karaddin said: I'm just stuck on how expensive the pool is. Its not a particularly pretentious thing to have by Aus standards but that seems really expensive Well, it's an indoor pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 She's probably talking about valid criticism of the state of Israel's appalling, criminal treatment of the Palestinian people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 She is beyond fucking thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippounet Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Spockydog said: What an enormous fucking cunt I'm starting to read your posts with a Karl Urban voice. Though it's clear those Conservatives are in fact cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I don't mean to ruin my weekends but when is someone going to organise some serious protests/riots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lessthanluke Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 23 hours ago, Werthead said: I believe the situation is that businesses are not included in the cost cap, so their energy increases can just go berserk. Yeah my latest bill for my gym legit made me want to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: I don't mean to ruin my weekends but when is someone going to organise some serious protests/riots? Agreed but also sorry the first rule is not to talk to the rozzers about this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, Poobah said: Agreed but also sorry the first rule is not to talk to the rozzers about this stuff. I can work with you. Misdirection is so important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 11 hours ago, Rippounet said: I'm starting to read your posts with a Karl Urban voice. Lol. My inner monologue is angry Billy Butcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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