The Doom of Ramsay Snow

[Chista]

a thought came to me while rereading a storm of swords. i came by this passage at the end of Arya1

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they thought they were hunting her, she knew with all the strange sharp certainty of dreams, but they were wrong. She was hunting them

 

we know from the old bear that "the things we love destroy us everytime". hunting was what King Robert loved and it killed him. and grrm seems to kill his characters while protecting people they love, or doing the things they love. like the way Eddard confessed committing treason before he died, because he was threatened with Sansa's life. we know that

 Ramsay Snow loves hunting, though his is a much uglier type. the sentence i quoted reminds me of Ramsay and his hunting. could his downfall be something close to this? while he thinks he is hunting another victim while in truth he is being hunted? by Arya, maybe through Nymeria? though i don't see how her pack could get so far north, or she herself. it is only this sentence that gives me such an idea. i wanted to see how you fellow asoiaf inthusiasts think about this somewhat theory. i've also heard theories where The Faceless Men give Arya the job of killing Cercei, which doesn't make sense imo because she knows Cercei and FM don't kill people they know. yet there is s1 in westeros who she doesn't know, whose victim is asumed to be heading to braavos in the winds by asoiaf fans. if the theory is that Arya can't leave the FM that easily and the most likely way she leaves them for westeros is getting a job to kill someone there (i heard that in YouTube), why not Ramsay? what if Jeyne Pool goes to braavos in winds and asks the FM to kill the monster she was forced to marry? and Arya doesn't know Ramsay, yet it's very unlikely they'd send an acolyte for something like that but it's at the very least more likely than Cercei. also Jeyne going to the FM is unlikely in the first place. anyways. again i'd like to hear what you guys think

[Aejohn the Conqueroo]

On 8/8/2022 at 5:33 AM, Chista said:

what if Jeyne Pool goes to braavos in winds and asks the FM to kill the monster she was forced to marry? and Arya doesn't know Ramsay, yet it's very unlikely they'd send an acolyte for something like that but it's at the very least more likely than Cercei. also Jeyne going to the FM is unlikely in the first place. anyways. again i'd like to hear what you guys think

What if Arya kills Jeyne Pool and assumes her identity? Would she wear Jeyne's face or her own?

[Nevets]

18 hours ago, Aejohn the Conqueroo said:

What if Arya kills Jeyne Pool and assumes her identity? Would she wear Jeyne's face or her own?

Why would she do that?  Arya has friends in Westeros who would recognize her and help her.  Jeyne has only enemies that would recognize her.  Also, Arya doesn't kill innocents, and would realize Jeyne was forced to do what she did.

I do expect a meeting between them, and I even anticipate they will travel together to Westeros.  They know one another and two are safer than one.

[Aejohn the Conqueroo]

1 hour ago, Nevets said:

I do expect a meeting between them, and I even anticipate they will travel together to Westeros.  They know one another and two are safer than one.

Yeah that's more in line with the way this story typically goes. My bad.

It would be an amusing wrinkle to Arya's ongoing identity crisis though if she had to assume someone else's face to take on the role of Arya Stark.

[Smoke317]

I think similar to how Arya gave the suffering girl “mercy” in the show, she will give suffering Jeyne the same “mercy” of a quick and painless death in the books.  But maybe Jeyne will tell her of Lord Commander Snow and Arya will return to Westeros?

[Nevets]

2 hours ago, Smoke317 said:

I think similar to how Arya gave the suffering girl “mercy” in the show, she will give suffering Jeyne the same “mercy” of a quick and painless death in the books.  But maybe Jeyne will tell her of Lord Commander Snow and Arya will return to Westeros?

I doubt this.  GRRM isn't into having his characters killing themselves, at least not without a greater purpose (Syrio and Halfhand, for example), so I can't see Jeyne Poole seeking her own death.  Simply getting away from Ramsay should help her psychological state considerably. Besides, Chekhov's whip marks need to pay off, which won't happen if she's dead.

I expect Arya will meet Jeyne.  If nothing else, it will be a go/no go moment for Arya.  If she doesn't take back her identity then, it will be more difficult to do so later.

[LynnS]

The Doom of Ramsey Snow can't come fast enough for me.