Takiedevushkikakzvezdy Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 9 hours ago, EggBlue said: By default, Aegon III's coronation has a better chance of being received well that Bran's never had. Who has a better story than Aegon the Psychologically Broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, Takiedevushkikakzvezdy said: Who has a better story than Aegon the Psychologically Broken? not Bran the emotionless white eyed for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I'll ban people talking about leaked episodes before they air. Only warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Ran said: I'll ban people talking about leaked episodes before they air. Only warning. Wow I hadn't heard about that. Why are they so prone to leaks? I feel like no other show frachise has had this many episodes get out early. At least this time there's probably little to spoil since I've read the whole story. but I am curious which version of events the show will use for certain things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, RumHam said: Wow I hadn't heard about that. Why are they so prone to leaks? I think it's probably just because they get so much attention. It's HBO, after all. There's a lot of clout to be had for leaking their premium content, and this is at present the most anticipated show around. 10 minutes ago, RumHam said: I feel like no other show frachise has had this many episodes get out early. Admittedly, some of them were genuine screw-ups. I think part of the issue is how HBO developed its international infrastructure, at first in partnership with local networks/cablers and then turning it into its own service. So the whole process of gettings things subtitled/dubbed was being handled by small, local companies with less oversight than, I'm guessing, the people working on content for Netflix or Amazon -- who are streaming-only -- do. And then there was the S2 episode where HBO Netherlands accidentally put it up early, and that was clearly just user error on the part of these various teams handling the fractured digital setup HBO has/had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterweedstrover Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Well, it’s coming out in less than four hours, I don’t see the rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 @Ran I don't know if you can answer this ... but I watched a review today about the first 6 episodes. according to the reviewer there's a discussion of a 12yr old's marriage to Viserys. is that Laena? is the show Laena younger than Rhaenyra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaehaerys Tyrell Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, EggBlue said: @Ran I don't know if you can answer this ... but I watched a review today about the first 6 episodes. according to the reviewer there's a discussion of a 12yr old's marriage to Viserys. is that Laena? is the show Laena younger than Rhaenyra? From promo clips I’ve seen of the tourney when everyone is young, Laena and Laenor look younger than Rhaenyra, like they’re kids and she’s a teen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 55 minutes ago, Jaehaerys Tyrell said: From promo clips I’ve seen of the tourney when everyone is young, Laena and Laenor look younger than Rhaenyra, like they’re kids and she’s a teen why would they do that ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, EggBlue said: why would they do that ?! I guess to keep the reason as to why Viserys rejects Laena as his second wife. I mean, they do marry for dynastic purposes and the Targaryens would want to keep their blood pure and all. Laena is the obvious choice, even more so to put the Velaryon issue to rest. If she were a grown woman at that time they would be no pretext besides 'Alicent is SOOO HOT!' to stop that marriage from happening. They might even switch the birth order of Laena and Laenor in the show, so that Laenor is closer in age to Rhaenyra than he would be if he were Laena's little brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, EggBlue said: @Ran I don't know if you can answer this ... but I watched a review today about the first 6 episodes. according to the reviewer there's a discussion of a 12yr old's marriage to Viserys. is that Laena? is the show Laena younger than Rhaenyra? Was that Grace Randolph? I haven’t watched her review but I’ve seen people talking about it online. She apparently gave the show a positive review but felt that the show was a little too lax with how it portrayed child marriages/exploitation. And as we’ve talked about a lot on this site, this is one of the bigger criticisms of the books too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterweedstrover Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 The thing is though, how old is the actress in real life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, butterweedstrover said: The thing is though, how old is the actress in real life? Who, Laena? Or Alicent? Alicent was 18 when they filmed the first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 58 minutes ago, Lord Varys said: I guess to keep the reason as to why Viserys rejects Laena as his second wife. I mean, they do marry for dynastic purposes and the Targaryens would want to keep their blood pure and all. Laena is the obvious choice, even more so to put the Velaryon issue to rest. If she were a grown woman at that time they would be no pretext besides 'Alicent is SOOO HOT!' to stop that marriage from happening. They might even switch the birth order of Laena and Laenor in the show, so that Laenor is closer in age to Rhaenyra than he would be if he were Laena's little brother. still 12 is too young. they could make it so that Alicent was a couple of years older or so, not 6years . and if they indeed have made Laenor the elder sibling , then he didn't need the child actor. besides, we're not gonna get enough of Laena and Laenor as it is ... make them children and all the opportunity could be lost . I mean Laenor's the only gay secondary character and Laena's friendship with Rhaenyra is one of the rare instances of female friendships in the books. 29 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said: Was that Grace Randolph? I haven’t watched her review but I’ve seen people talking about it online. She apparently gave the show a positive review but felt that the show was a little too lax with how it portrayed child marriages/exploitation. And as we’ve talked about a lot on this site, this is one of the bigger criticisms of the books too. yes , I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterweedstrover Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said: Who, Laena? Or Alicent? Alicent was 18 when they filmed the first season. Laena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I've been pronouncing Syrax wrong in my head this whole time. Probably a lot of other stuff too. I'm not done but it's great so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 30 minutes ago, butterweedstrover said: Laena Not sure. There are three Laenas though, so this one is presumably a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterweedstrover Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Anyways, just finished watching it. I thought it was pretty mundane and passive for a premiere meant to hook in viewers. The sex and gore was fine, I don’t know what I was thinking. After watching so much European stuff I had this exaggerated impression of what that would entail, good thing I was wrong. The lighting was too dark. The directing was choppy. Some scenes were too long like the progression into the red keep and others had too many cuts like the Daemon vs. Criston melee. The dialogue was overly mundane and focused on exposition. The one scene that might have been powerful was wasted on tin foil theory by Martin. The best scene was the tourney but they shouldn’t have spliced it with the pregnancy. I get the dichotomy of the different ‘battlefields’ but it didn’t work; the scene changes were abrupt and made it so that I couldn’t focus on what was going on. As for Criston Cole I wished his victory was taken as a bigger surprise and dwelled upon for a moment but the characters acted mostly disinterested. It fell in line with my overall problem which was how low key everything felt. The producers were playing it safe, and all the moments that could have been great were hampered by this rushed feeling as if we need to get to the next plot beat. Some of the best parts of GOT were the monologues and conversations like War Stories with Bobby B that mellowed the pace and felt relevant to the characters. Everything here dialogue related was plot heavy with little characterization (most of which was handled through the subtext). I love subtext but I felt outside of the Otto/Daemon feud most of it wasn’t well communicated. Like the later seasons of game of thrones the writers don’t feel confident enough to take risks and left everything in a carefully unsaturated tone. It was good, it was well produced, but it wasn’t particularly memorable. If I wasn’t familiar with the source material I wouldn’t feel the urge to go on. But this was just one episode. However given the three season target I am worried this trend is a driving philosophy behind the production. Fans will like the bits of lore, but for most casual viewers all that will go over their head. But, but, the girls (Alicent and Rhaenyra) did an excellent job with what they were given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, butterweedstrover said: The sex and gore was fine, I don’t know what I was thinking. After watching so much European stuff I had this exaggerated impression of what that would entail, good thing I was wrong. I feel the nudity was actually quite tame except for the gratuitous background extras. Nothing you couldn't show on other networks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaehaerys Tyrell Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Lord Varys said: They might even switch the birth order of Laena and Laenor in the show, so that Laenor is closer in age to Rhaenyra than he would be if he were Laena's little brother. The brief scene where Laena clutches Laenor’s sleeve for comfort seems to give more of a younger sister vibe, but there’s little to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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