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1 hour ago, mormont said:

We'll always have the Sex Pistols.

They summed up Tory and Windsor England perfectly.

God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
A potential H bomb

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Ormond said:

I think it would be completely against tradition for him to use a name which he was not baptized with. So his other choices are Philip, Arthur, and George.  I think when his grandson was named George his incentive for using that name would have been greatly reduced. And I think using either Philip or Arthur would be seen as a bit self-important, for different reasons. Naming oneself King Arthur would just make him seem too arrogant. 

Maybe William will go with Arthur. Though as a bit of a troll move he could go with Louis (1st I assume for Great Britain).

I feel nothing, personally. For all that no one in her family, or anyone else for that matter, cares I offer my condolences to the Queen's family.

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3 hours ago, dog-days said:

TBH, I'm not anti-monarchy. I was fervently republican as a child/young teen, but seeing the likes of President George W Bush elected boss of the world moderated that quite a lot.

Yeah I never got this notion of giving someone a position of government and a degree of power(in the form of massive wealth at least)by virtue of their blood would be a safeguard against be incompetent administration or authoritarianism.

You bring up George W, and I’m reminded of a fairly liberal woman who I know who mainly voted for him because of his father.

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Just now, Varysblackfyre321 said:

Yeah I never got this notion of giving someone a position of government and a degree of power(in the form of massive wealth at least)by virtue of their blood

No, no, no. It was God who gave them the power. Nothing to do with us plebs.

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'The rock on which modern Britain was built,' says Liz Truss.

What the fuck does that even mean? It doesn't mean a damn thing. It's just some shite her speechshiter thought would make a good sound byte. Did they even stop to consider exactly what Modern Britain looks like? LOL. Of course they fucking didn't.

Anyway, I guess we should just prepare ourselves for weeks and weeks of fawning gibberish from sycophantic twats.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Pebble thats Stubby said:

How long before we have to change all our money?  Does each note/coin get gradually phased out or do we do them all at the same time?

The whole island is supposed to send them to this Hudson Valley, NY, USA address.  They'll mail you back 'good' currency.  All UK residents please PM me for details

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16 minutes ago, Larry of the Lake said:

The whole island is supposed to send them to this Hudson Valley, NY, USA address.  They'll mail you back 'good' currency.  All UK residents please PM me for details

Ummm. Maybe not forget the outlying islands?

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I'm with PG on this one in that I totally get people being sad about the death or their monarch even if that's not my scene. We all react differently to things like this based on our own experience ( or lack of it) and feelings about the Queen and the monarchy.

That being said, colonialism and the impact it has had on a lot of countries around the world, including my own, has been completely airbrushed from the British consciousness and of course the monarchy and the queen has had a role in that which is why my personal reaction is I'm empathetic to the family, but not really much more than that.

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Curious. I just had a conversation with a colleague, who by accent and name I would say is from South Africa (not indigenous). The subject totally unrelated - some multi-country hepititis A situation that we need to write to a few countries about - but she lead with being a bit distracted by the Queen's death, because she's a royalist and wrote a card to the Queen congratulating her on her platinum jubilee. She got a reply "from the Queen", which clearly it was not, but it's nice for them to imagine it is from the Queen personally.

It has never crossed my mind once to write to the Queen ever about anything. If I make it to 100 I will get a letter from, I assume, King William, or maybe George, if that tradition carries on. I guess it would be polite to write back at that point.

I said a prayer for the Queen, asking for forgiveness of sins, because I hope someone will pray for the forgiveness of my sins after I'm gone.

Just heard from my mother. She reminded me the Queen visited New Zealand for the Commonwealth Games in 1974. She (as the wife of the local MP) was part of the greeting party during one leg of her visit. This is her anecdote:

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Thought you all knew I had a chat with Queen Elizabeth II in February 1974.  Royals were here for Commonwealth Games in Christchurch and stopped over in our town after greeting her she asked me "What do I do now". Wasn't my job to look after her, [that] was the Mayoress' [job]. I was supposed to tail along after Princess Anne. Anyway, escorted her over to the fence to greet the people and then the chap in charge of protocol took my arm and said I needed to catch up with the Princess. I was most impressed with Prince Charles because he was casual and cheery. 

 

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My Facebook is covered with absolute nonsense, from people I'd previously assumed were intelligent rational people. You would think she was the most amazing person who ever lived, rather than a tolerable but distant old woman, that lived a life of absurd, unearned privilege. 

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When I was younger, I was probably pretty anti monarchy, was spouting off all the same tired lines about privilege and inheritance. 
 

Now though I think the Queen has been the constant symbol of the country for my entire lifetime. She did a very good job of being that symbol, of being something that holds the country together in our collective consciousness. In understanding what the royal family is for and what role of plays she got it absolutely correct. 
 

It’s a very strange feeling to lose that, even into her 96th year she was actively projecting British values even when our government was proving itself to look like a bunch of clowns.

Its absolutely fine to be sad about that, people feel grief for losing people they never met. I always found reaction to Diana’s death curious and baffling but she meant something to people so that is ok.
I also find all this republic banter on her pretty distasteful, but looking at who’s doing it, I’m not surprised by that either.

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As a political move cancelling the rail strikes is the right call. There is only public sympathy to lose by striking at that time.

Republicans and monarchists don't agree on much, but they will all agree that in the next 10 days a lot of people will say, loudly and often and on whatever platform they can appear, that this isn't about left or right, rich or poor, or privilege or deprivation, now is the time for the country to come together and mourn the loss of a much loved queen, and anyone who says different is disrespecting her memory. 

There is no swimming against that tide.

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8 hours ago, Spockydog said:

'The rock on which modern Britain was built,' says Liz Truss.

What the fuck does that even mean? It doesn't mean a damn thing. It's just some shite her speechshiter thought would make a good sound byte. Did they even stop to consider exactly what Modern Britain looks like? LOL. Of course they fucking didn't.

Anyway, I guess we should just prepare ourselves for weeks and weeks of fawning gibberish from sycophantic twats.

 

 

Months probably.

This is going to sound bizarre, but I think the Queen was one of the rocks upon which modern Britain is built.  She was the Head of State for all of us, she was always curious about new innovations and technologies, and she reached out to many different communities in the country (and in the wider world).  As anachronistic as the monarchy is to many, the Queen herself seemed to be very open, curious, welcoming, accepting of change, as well as adhering to tradition.

 

ETA: Holy shit, I think I've just agreed with Liz Truss :(

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