US Politics: Hey wanna come to my office and see some Top Secret Eyes only documents?

[DMC]

1 hour ago, Mindwalker said:

hoping to make it to (or at least reduce the time between a final verdict and) the next election and a Republican government

That's a hell of a long clock.

[Martell Spy]

Newly obtained surveillance video shows fake Trump elector escorted operatives into Georgia county's elections office before voting machine breach

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/06/politics/surveillance-video-voting-machine-breach-coffee-county-georgia/index.html

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(CNN)A Republican county official in Georgia escorted two operatives working with an attorney for former President Donald Trump into the county's election offices on the same day a voting system there was breached, newly obtained video shows.

The breach is now under investigation by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and is of interest to the Fulton County District Attorney, who is conducting a wider criminal probe of interference in the 2020 election.
The video sheds more light on how an effort spearheaded by lawyers and others around Trump to seek evidence of voter fraud was executed on the ground from Georgia to Michigan to Colorado, often with the assistance of sympathetic local officials.

In the surveillance video, which was obtained by CNN, Cathy Latham, a former GOP chairwoman of Coffee County who is under criminal investigation for posing as a fake elector in 2020, escorts a team of pro-Trump operatives to the county's elections office on January 7, 2021, the same day a voting system there is known to have been breached.

 

 

[Mindwalker]

25 minutes ago, DMC said:

That's a hell of a long clock.

Well, some expect that negotiating the new sm and their responsibilities might take months, even a year. And that's before he's done anything.

[DMC]

2 minutes ago, Mindwalker said:

Well, some expect that negotiating the new sm and their responsibilities might take months, even a year.

If it takes a year or even a few months to simply appoint the special master, yeah, there's definitely something fishy going on.

[SpaceChampion]

 

[Jaxom 1974]

 

 

[IheartIheartTesla]

There is a good case to be made for this Trump nonsense to keep extending till the mid-terms at least, the gift that keeps on giving. Keep him in the news in little driblles, each week bringing a new revelation. That should lower the gains the GoP will make in the House.

By the way, the R-D split in the House may be as low as 228-207, which is pretty acceptable. Makes it easier in 2024 to slip back, although that depends on the national environment, of course.

[Gaston de Foix]

29 minutes ago, IheartIheartTesla said:

By the way, the R-D split in the House may be as low as 228-207, which is pretty acceptable. Makes it easier in 2024 to slip back, although that depends on the national environment, of course.

Up to a point.  I suspect the SC will undermine the (sporadic) limits that state courts have placed on gerrymandering in places like WI and NC by a full-throated embrace of the ISL doctrine.  Those changes will play out in the 2024 cycle.  And of course, the SC is all set to gut VRA-required majority-minority districts.  

[Gaston de Foix]

double post

[Fez]

18 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said:

Up to a point.  I suspect the SC will undermine the (sporadic) limits that state courts have placed on gerrymandering in places like WI and NC by a full-throated embrace of the ISL doctrine.  Those changes will play out in the 2024 cycle.  And of course, the SC is all set to gut VRA-required majority-minority districts.  

Conversely, Democrats do have a couple places to go hardball as well. New York is the big one. They tried in 2020, but got undone by the state supreme court which had a 4-3 conservative majority (thanks Cuomo!). But one of the four resigned in disgrace recently and now there's a 4-3 liberal majority. So long as Democrats maintain their state legislative supermajority (requirement to ignore the state constitutional amendment on redistricting) they can replace the new map (which 538 estimates to be a 16-6 Dem advantage with 4 tossups) with the original planned 23-3 maximal Dem advantage map.

[Gaston de Foix]

8 minutes ago, Fez said:

Conversely, Democrats do have a couple places to go hardball as well. New York is the big one. They tried in 2020, but got undone by the state supreme court which had a 4-3 conservative majority (thanks Cuomo!). But one of the four resigned in disgrace recently and now there's a 4-3 liberal majority. So long as Democrats maintain their state legislative supermajority (requirement to ignore the state constitutional amendment on redistricting) they can replace the new map (which 538 estimates to be a 16-6 Dem advantage with 4 tossups) with the original planned 23-3 maximal Dem advantage map.

Yes, and such an approach would represent best practice to link redistricting reform to symmetrical or nationwide efforts and not represent unilateral disarmament by Dems.  

[LongRider]

Don't worry bro, Ginny will make sure her best friend is on your side when the case reaches the USSC.

 

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[Ormond]

10 hours ago, ThinkerX said:

Palins idiocy (or Begich's stubbornness) might cost the R's Alaska congressional seat.  If the R's shoot themselves in the foot even once or twice more, they might fail to gain both the senate and the house. 

Palin calls for Begich to drop out of the congressional race but deadline arrives and neither budge (msn.com)

 

So what do you think Begich thinks about Palin? Is it possible that if he can't be the Representative that he actually would rather have Peltola be elected than Palin?

[Fez]

24 minutes ago, Ormond said:

So what do you think Begich thinks about Palin? Is it possible that if he can't be the Representative that he actually would rather have Peltola be elected than Palin?

Begich is an odd one. He's certainly Republican, but comes from a long line of Democrats. One of his uncles is former senator Mark Begich, who beat Ted Stevens in 2008, and another uncle is the Democratic minority leader of the Alaska state senate. His grandfather was a Democrat and Alaska's House member from 1968 to 1972, until he died in a plane crash.

I don't know anything about him personally, but I suspect there's a strong chance he likes Peltola more than Palin. He's not running in the crazy lane. Here's one fo his answer to a candidate survey from Alaska public radio:

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Supporters of former President Donald Trump violently attacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2020. Do you believe President Trump should be held responsible for the events of Jan. 6?

We are a nation built on rule of law and the enforcement thereof. Further, no citizen may stand above the law, irrespective of their position. Any determination of who bears responsibility for illegal acts conducted at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2020 must rest with the courts and should be determined based on those sets of facts that pass the test of reasonable doubt.

 

https://alaskapublic.org/2022/08/10/candidate-qa-u-s-house-nick-begich-iii/

[ThinkerX]

38 minutes ago, Ormond said:

So what do you think Begich thinks about Palin? Is it possible that if he can't be the Representative that he actually would rather have Peltola be elected than Palin?

To me, Begich comes across as a 'sane republican' - about as 'left' as he can get and still be considered a republican. That, however, is just me. 

Alaska's governor's race is also getting interesting. Walker, a former governor of the independent stripe, is running again, and seems to be relatively popular. Ideologically, he kind of sort of straddles the line between D and R ...which is an improvement over the likes of Parnel/Palin/Dunleavy.

 

[Mindwalker]

I won't say they broke in and scanned every ballot as I don't want to harm their reputation.

[DMC]

I don't think (Nick) Begich should get too much credit for being a "sane" Republican.  On election denialism, from the statements I've read, he's trying to have his cake and eat it too.  You could say that's what you have to do to win as a Republican, but..considering Alaska's voting method he really doesn't need to - particularly considering the space or "lane" he's occupying. 

If he positioned himself as an Independent or even a "moderate" Republican a la Murkowski he probably could beat Palin in a head-to-head matchup - and the Alaskan Democratic party would probably step back and try to clear the field for him, particularly considering his family.  But he's not, and especially on social issues he's a hardline conservative.  Which means, Palin craziness and stupidity aside, there doesn't appear to be any difference between Begich voting in Congress and Palin.  Glad he refused to drop out though!

[Kalbear]

Jesus fuck. In some ways this is significantly worse than it being our secrets about our nuclear program.

 

 

 

[LongRider]

Gift link of WP article.

Material on foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities seized at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago - The Washington Post

edt:   brain goes all asplody after reading article    jfc

 

[A Horse Named Stranger]

WTAF. The French won't be happy.

Ok, with this level security, say hello to special master Barack H. Obama