polishgenius Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Very disappointed by Arsenal attitude here- not one of their players decided to sacrifice themselves for a good cause and take a few games suspension by booting Ronaldo really hard in the knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 There's no point even talking about VAR, especially as Varane constantly fouling Jesus but those never being given, whilst you have VAR taking that Martinelli goal away for absolutely nothing. Still, once we got back into the game we should have been better, and we had plenty of chances. United have one trick, and it's on us for falling for it twice. You have to be a bit more streetwise, which we weren't. Didn't deserve anything because of those mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 It was a good game. Both sides played reasonably well. United were very good on the counter which is unsurprising. 3-1 is a flattering scoreline; a draw would've been a fair result. Eriksen was the best player on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Didn't watch but does it look like Ten Hag has worked out what he's doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Arsenal played well despite the scoreline. Partey injury is going to hurt them all throughout the season. And now ESR hurt himself during the warm-down. Arsenal's squad is so small (even smaller than last season), it's highly likely they will face a massive injury crisis during the month of October when they have matches every 3 days leading into the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Didn't watch but does it look like Ten Hag has worked out what he's doing? Kinda. A lot of the stuff here and against Liverpool was stuff we already knew we can do - hitting on the break and that- and he's just restored confidence in it, but he is starting to build a passing game in there even as he accepts that we aren't gonna be playing from the back as purely as he wishes and adjusting around that idea. Our next game is Palace and that'll probably tell us whether we're organised against a team in a low block who can counter fast themselves, moreso than this and the Liverpool result as pleasant as those have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryk Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Man U are looking really improved since dropping Maguire plus Ten Hag changing the playing style to suit what they have. Showing himself to be an adaptable coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon the Leaner Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 53 minutes ago, polishgenius said: Kinda. A lot of the stuff here and against Liverpool was stuff we already knew we can do - hitting on the break and that- and he's just restored confidence in it, but he is starting to build a passing game in there even as he accepts that we aren't gonna be playing from the back as purely as he wishes and adjusting around that idea. We were quite good at playing from the back at some point in 20/21 though. I don't know what happened next. Also, I think I saw a stat going that in ~25 PL games where we've scored first, we've been defeated only once. Does anyone remember against which team we conceded a comeback? (I genuinely don't) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denvek Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ser Glendon Fireball said: We were quite good at playing from the back at some point in 20/21 though. I don't know what happened next. We bought Ronaldo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ser Glendon Fireball said: Does anyone remember against which team we conceded a comeback? (I genuinely don't) 4-2 Leicester last year. But also we've only lost four times in the Premier league when we've been leading at half time, and all of those were away- we haven't lost from leading at half time in the league at Old Trafford since 1984. That is mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 United were pretty effective as a counterattacking team under Mourinho and OGS. The problem is that costs them too many points against smaller clubs who play the same style, plus eventually the fans lose interest in watching it. It was only when United tried to seize the initiative and play higher up that they really got destroyed. That shift asks a lot more the players and they haven’t previously been able to make that step. ETH is being pragmatic by reverting to what the players can handle but it has the same limitations. The real question is whether he can get the team to play in a more challenging formation/style too. In the meantime it won’t hurt to build some confidence, buy some patience from fans and bank some points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Udinese are pumping Roma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Consigliere said: Udinese are pumping Roma. Spurs signed Udogie and loaned him back to Udine for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I've been enjoying the short footy documentaries on copa90. I didn't know anything about SC Freiburg but really admire everything they stand for as a club. I was shocked to know they are owned 100% by the fans!! A pity they lost to that fake club Red Bull in the cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Stat tracking shows that Liverpool have been out-run by their opponents by 3.4km per game so far in the PL, reversing a prior advantage of 1.5km per game at the same point of last season. And fewer high intensity runs. That’s a big swing. As the sample size gets larger, the team looks tired and burnt out. My guess is that there were just too many games in the second half of last season, relying on mostly the same players for most of those minutes. Possibly it’s a deliberate strategy now to conserve energy ahead of a long season punctuated by a WC, but I doubt we’d be just throwing away the points intentionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 The recent spate of injuries, and everyone in the squad over 21 looking leggy out on the pitch makes me think that indeed, the schedule demands of last year are catching up with LFC. The loss of Sadio Mane is particularly hard in this case, as he was a willing and capable runner despite the grind. And the team set-up for this season, with Salah and Diaz further out on the wings, is taking two important goal threats and pushing them away from the target. Meanwhile the players who are instead supposed to "burst through" the gaps opened up by this revised formation lack the energy to make that run. Or are callow youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, Wilbur said: The recent spate of injuries, and everyone in the squad over 21 looking leggy out on the pitch makes me think that indeed, the schedule demands of last year are catching up with LFC. The loss of Sadio Mane is particularly hard in this case, as he was a willing and capable runner despite the grind. And the team set-up for this season, with Salah and Diaz further out on the wings, is taking two important goal threats and pushing them away from the target. Meanwhile the players who are instead supposed to "burst through" the gaps opened up by this revised formation lack the energy to make that run. Or are callow youth. I agree that the formation shift doesn’t help either. Our most potent attackers are further from goal. Plus opponents are willing to double cover all three forwards rather than cover MFs joining the attack in the inside channel, because those MFs don’t pose much threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 11 hours ago, AncalagonTheBlack said: I've been enjoying the short footy documentaries on copa90. I didn't know anything about SC Freiburg but really admire everything they stand for as a club. I was shocked to know they are owned 100% by the fans!! A pity they lost to that fake club Red Bull in the cup final. I am pretty sure, I whined about Freiburg undeservedly losing that final and also on them missing out on the CL back in the old thread. Freiburg are a properly run football club, but they are a seller club. Their business model is basically finding young players (or bringing them through their academy) improve them, and when bigger clubs come knocking, they sell, then reinvest and rinse and repeat. It's a rather slow and steady growth model. So I find it a bit amusing that Norwich got a lot of stick for employing a similar model. Freiburg are just 15-20 further ahead. (so they are more like Southampton in that respect). If things got bad, and they hit a bad season, they can end up in the relegation battle. And they will in all likelyhood never win the league, and another cup final appearance might take a good while. Having that said, best of luck to Freiburg, who are (temporarily) top of the league. They are sorta the role model for smaller clubs, they managed to establish themselves at the Bundesliga. Proper fan scene, too. I hope they do well the in the EL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 On 9/5/2022 at 9:38 AM, AncalagonTheBlack said: I've been enjoying the short footy documentaries on copa90. I didn't know anything about SC Freiburg but really admire everything they stand for as a club. I was shocked to know they are owned 100% by the fans!! A pity they lost to that fake club Red Bull in the cup final. Thank you for sharing this. It's an interesting video. It's funny to see Liverpool in "same teams win everything every year" montage, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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