Raja Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Potter should run from this job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Consigliere Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 It's a risk for Potter but this is also too good of an opportunity to pass up. Brighton are a very well run club but at the end of the day, there is a low ceiling for club's like Brighton no matter how well run they are. Potter has a better chance of winning trophies at an underperforming Chelsea than he does at an overperforming Brighton and he will get a significant pay bump too. Plus, good managers have a huge amount of faith in their own abilities and will believe that they are the ones to turn things around. Football is also a fickle business – a bad run for Brighton and Potter's stock could tank. Rodgers is a recent example of this – two seasons ago his stock was high and he was being touted as a potential successor to Guardiola at City. Now, his stock is at rock bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Soylent Brown said: An excerpt from an article written by a Chelsea mouthpiece journalist- It is unlikely that Tuchel was a particularly enthusiastic member of the WhatsApp group that was set up to improve communication and discuss transfer targets. The fact the 49-year-old prefers to be left to work and solve problems on his own, along with his close circle of coaches, is not in line with the inclusive approach of Boehly and Eghbali. They want a coach who they feel comfortable bouncing ideas off and peppering with questions, even some that may seem tiresome to those with more football experience. There is also a desire for all of Chelsea’s departments to become more intertwined and cooperative. So basically they got upset that their manager didn't want to field answers to stupid questions all the time, and wouldn't let Boehly pick the team himself. I have to say, that sets all kinds of red flags waving. Any top manager reading those comments would be insane to work for that guy. Boehly is (hopefully) going to destroy that club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wilbur Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Soylent Brown said: An excerpt from an article written by a Chelsea mouthpiece journalist- It is unlikely that Tuchel was a particularly enthusiastic member of the WhatsApp group that was set up to improve communication and discuss transfer targets. The fact the 49-year-old prefers to be left to work and solve problems on his own, along with his close circle of coaches, is not in line with the inclusive approach of Boehly and Eghbali. They want a coach who they feel comfortable bouncing ideas off and peppering with questions, even some that may seem tiresome to those with more football experience. There is also a desire for all of Chelsea’s departments to become more intertwined and cooperative. So basically they got upset that their manager didn't want to field answers to stupid questions all the time, and wouldn't let Boehly pick the team himself. Collaborative management approaches work well when the top executive (Boehly?) is a subject matter expert. Let's say that Chelsea had hired somebody like Wenger (ha ha, the idea) for this role, and he kept himself in the loop and offered positive support and germane thoughts to Tuchel. That might work. Otherwise I can't imagine a better way to drive the actual SME (Tuchel) to insanity than trying to harness him to the subject matter ignorant execs above him. Tuchel very likely told them to stop wasting his time one too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Collaborative management approaches work well when the top executive (Boehly?) is a subject matter expert. Let's say that Chelsea had hired somebody like Wenger (ha ha, the idea) for this role, and he kept himself in the loop and offered positive support and germane thoughts to Tuchel. That might work. You're saying we should have kept Ragnick around at United? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 In a position above Murtough with full control over the football side of things? Yes. But Rangnick was proposing major changes (open-heart surgery as he put it) and the Glazers don't like anyone rocking the boat too much so they went with internal yes men who have been a part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Consigliere said: Plus, good managers have a huge amount of faith in their own abilities and will believe that they are the ones to turn things around. Football is also a fickle business – a bad run for Brighton and Potter's stock could tank. Rodgers is a recent example of this – two seasons ago his stock was high and he was being touted as a potential successor to Guardiola at City. Now, his stock is at rock bottom. Basically, this. However, Howe was still considered a very good managerial pick for Newcastle (or anybody else), despite dropping with Bournemouth in his final year there. Just like with Howe, everybody can see that Potter is a very good manager, with a higher ceiling than Brighton can provide. With for example Dyche you (or at least I) didn't get the feeling that there was a potential elite manager in there somewhere - sorry, PG. Klopp also pretty much had quite a few options, despite his final year at Dortmund. Tuchel will also find his way into another big club (my guess is, he will take a holiday and not jump at the next best offer (Leipzig), but wait for a job at a big club (Juve?)). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, polishgenius said: You're saying we should have kept Ragnick around at United? I think that the parasitic ownership at Manchester United will probably poison the well for any arrangement that lacks the political nous to salute the flag or be yes-men and then do their own thing. Otherwise, I also agree with Consigliere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Tuchel could get the Liverpool job if this keeps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Virgil and Salah have been so average all fucking season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Liverpool are getting battered here. Did not expect this. Napoli 2-0 up but they could just as easily have been 4 or 5 nil up. Don't think I've seen a worse half than this from Liverpool under Klopp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 This is really funny. Gomez might as well be wearing a blue shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Good lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 I guess Klopp is more open to field stupid questions by the higher ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Klopp to Chelsea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 Before you go, you have to say one thing about Firmino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Matip and Thiago need to come on immediately at the start of the 2nd half. Gomez has been diabolical and Milner's legs are gone – he can't cope with energetic and mobile opposition any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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