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Surprised there hasn't been any mention of the 5th circuit ruling on the Texas social media law which breaks with so much of recent rulings around the rights of corporations

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/16/5th-circuit-texas-social-media-law/

Despite a very clear implication of this being that banks shouldn't be able to cancel the accounts of sex workers, but I don't expect there to be any consistency in how this shit is actually handled.

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Instead of making excuses for her ruling, can we just stick with the more obvious explanations. 

She is an incompetent hack, who bends over backwards to help the orange doofus. I mean, wrt threats, wasn't somebody arrested in Texas who made some threats towards Judge Naked Gun, after her insane ruling? So the judiciary can defend itself, if it really wants to.

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3 minutes ago, Mindwalker said:

Yes, I don't think we need any mental contortions when pretty much the whole legal community agrees she's a corrupt hack.

That and she is way out of her depth, still, 45's blatant and subtle intimidation does happen, and I wonder how much of that happened to her. 

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2 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

Instead of making excuses for her ruling, can we just stick with the more obvious explanations. 

Yeesh.  It's not making excuses to point out Trump's threats are dangerous and need to be confronted.

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2 minutes ago, DMC said:

Yeesh.  It's not making excuses to point out Trump's threats are dangerous and need to be confronted.

And agree she’s a dangerous hack. 
 

Also, very nice of your dad to buy your sis a pony.  :commie:

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My parents bought me: nothing. 
 

Since we’re sharing and my kids are behaving like ravaging barbarians: Moved out while still in HS, that’s how I originally got into modelling and other stuff. While still at home I was working to pay for cable so I could watch sports because after my mom remarried and found Jesus, they didn’t believe in that stuff, and then my sister was born and that was the bright light.

I paid my way for everything, and it taught me: again, nothing. Eventually ended up working for an escort agency, so I guess I learned that. The whole bootstrap thing is complete bull. I am grumpy. 

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7 minutes ago, James Arryn said:

The whole bootstrap thing is complete bull. I am grumpy. 

  :agree:          The bootstrap thing is complete bullshit.  I grew up in a large family, the Walton's it fucking was not. :fencing: Us kids did get a pony for Xmis, but we had to share.  I think he hated us.     :lol:

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3 hours ago, LongRider said:

What I wonder about Judge Loose Cannon, was she intimidated by the maga mobs that harass and threaten judges that 45 has indicated he doesn't like or have treated him wrong?  If she had ruled against him the mobs would be at her door that day.  For all we know, she could have received threatening phone calls and other forms of intimidation.  Did it happen?  Don't know.  Could it?  Possibly.  

I said this right after her first ruling, which most people in the legal community found bizarre. I'm >95% sure she made her decision with herself and her family chiefly in mind. This is a common theme in authoritarian regimes.

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4 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

I said this right after her first ruling, which most people in the legal community found bizarre. I'm >95% sure she made her decision with herself and her family chiefly in mind. This is a common theme in authoritarian regimes.

The bolded, that makes sense. 

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22 hours ago, Wade1865 said:

Week -- yes; I literally said, "a". And I never argued unions were only about wages; there's obviously other factors involved with unions.

Yes, they do. Your opinion doesn't contradict their success. Starbucks is by far the most successful coffee chain in the world, with their closest competitor far behind. They sell about 4 million cups of coffee a day. We're talking about a 2021 revenue of $29 billion USD, a third of the US market share. Credit where credit is due.

They’ve got a profit of 29 billion a year and you think that their environment is tanking because of unions?!?!?? As opposed to only being happy with 25 billion/year? Think about what they’re saying with their behaviour, and what you are accepting.

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28 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

I said this right after her first ruling, which most people in the legal community found bizarre. I'm >95% sure she made her decision with herself and her family chiefly in mind. This is a common theme in authoritarian regimes.

I think this is a new, untapped formulation here. Previously folks have said how in analysis of, say, Kavanaugh they think he would not do things that would tarnish his legacy. And that is fair!

But it's also fair to consider that people may make choices that are far more up Maslow hierarchies and are instead more thinking about their survival. To whit: would Kavanaugh seriously risk his and his family's life and livelihood and go against the gop as it is?

I don't think we are quite there yet for the likes of Kavanaugh but I think we can see it from here. 

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Trump was openly shopping for this judge and tried to shop for her before. He likely knew something. Seems unlikely he'd know this judge was easy to scare. 

There's also an entire network dedicated to churning out loyal Republican operative "judges."

Not that the intimidation isn't real. It's more generalized though. 

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27 minutes ago, KalVsWade said:

But it's also fair to consider that people may make choices that are far more up Maslow hierarchies and are instead more thinking about their survival. To whit: would Kavanaugh seriously risk his and his family's life and livelihood and go against the gop as it is?

To be clear, yes, I think this is very fair as a potential eventuality as well.  ...I just don't think it will be over national legislation codifying abortion policy.

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2 hours ago, DMC said:

Yeesh.  It's not making excuses to point out Trump's threats are dangerous and need to be confronted.

I still think its outrageous and silly to make that claim in this case.

Remember, the orange one basically went judge shopping. It wasn't her case. If she was acting out of safety concerns, she could'Ve said wrong court, sorry. You have to go back to the original court/judge. 

She wanted this case. 

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