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This discussion thread's purpose is to talk about the warging/skinchanging abilities, as well as of the greenseer powers in Bran and Rickon's cases, of the Stark children, of their nature, of their development and of their future usefulness. 

What do you think will be the development of their abilities for each surviving child of Ned Stark in the remaining books ? 

How do you think that Jon (after his ressurection, if it happens), Sansa, Arya, Bran and Rickon will develop and master their powers ? 

Who will be the best of them at warging ? What uses do you think that each of them would make of it ? 

Also what limits, both magical and moral, for each of them ?

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Things are not looking so good for Bran on the moral front. He has already broken 2/3 skinchanging taboos. Admittedly he didn't know explicitly about these, but I think he still felt that what he was doing was wrong...poor Hodor.

Ultimately the moral limits will probably be self-imposed, if any, because anyone who could inform them is dead (or seemingly unwilling), unless Borroq or someone knows and tells Jon. 

Rickon may have access to a teacher on Skagos.

Arya and Jon will have their own survival to motivate them. If any more of Arya's senses are removed as part of the Faceless Men training it will encourage her to develop her skill.

I'm not sure about Sansa.

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16 hours ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said:

This discussion thread's purpose is to talk about the warging/skinchanging abilities, as well as of the greenseer powers in Bran and Rickon's cases, of the Stark children, of their nature, of their development and of their future usefulness. 

What do you think will be the development of their abilities for each surviving child of Ned Stark in the remaining books ? 

How do you think that Jon (after his ressurection, if it happens), Sansa, Arya, Bran and Rickon will develop and master their powers ? 

Who will be the best of them at warging ? What uses do you think that each of them would make of it ? 

Also what limits, both magical and moral, for each of them ?

Sansa and Jon are the outliers in the Stark wolf pack.  Sansa turned her back on the Starks.  Symbolically and practially, she did this.  Jon from the start has always been the odd man out.  Ghost was found away from the cubs and presumably driven away.  

Robb met his end and took his wolf with him.  No chances of a second life for him.  Rickon, Jon, and Arya will die some time in the series and they will get second lives through their wolves.  What Jon could not get in his human life, he will get in his life as a wolf.  He will be the Alpha of the Stark pack.  What he could not get as a Stark human, he will get as Direwolf.  The Dwolves will be the last survivors in the North and Jon-Ghost will be their leader.  It will be a small pack ofcourse, consisting of Ghost, Nymeria, and Shaggydog.  

Nymeria follows a similar story to her namesake.  She will lead her pack to the North and away from the Riverlands to escape the human hunters.  Ghost will be seen as the spirit of Jon Snow by the Free Folk and he will probably lead the few survivors to the safety of Winterfell after the Boltons are dead.  Shaggydog will represent the Skagos survivors and they too will take shelter in Winterfell before they all perish.  Sansa will die and not get a wolf life.  

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6 hours ago, Craving Peaches said:

Things are not looking so good for Bran on the moral front. He has already broken 2/3 skinchanging taboos. Admittedly he didn't know explicitly about these, but I think he still felt that what he was doing was wrong...poor Hodor.

Ultimately the moral limits will probably be self-imposed, if any, because anyone who could inform them is dead (or seemingly unwilling), unless Borroq or someone knows and tells Jon. 

Rickon may have access to a teacher on Skagos.

Arya and Jon will have their own survival to motivate them. If any more of Arya's senses are removed as part of the Faceless Men training it will encourage her to develop her skill.

I'm not sure about Sansa.

Sansa, if she does learn how to use her ability, could use it in the same way and for the same purpose Bloodraven did when he was serving house Targaryen, using essentially birds as spies to be always one step ahead in terms of knowledge and scheming.

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1 hour ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said:

Sansa, if she does learn how to use her ability, could use it in the same way and for the same purpose Bloodraven did when he was serving house Targaryen, using essentially birds as spies to be always one step ahead in terms of knowledge and scheming.

Arya has done something along those lines already.  She's been eavesdropping by skinchanging cats; I expect that to continue.  It could possibly get her in trouble though.  Either she hears something bad about herself (her ego and self esteem are fragile) or she shows she knows something she could only know by eavesdropping (causing trust issues).  Nothing is ever free in Martinland and GRRM likes to make magical processes in particular difficult and unreliable.

Sansa has latent abilities, and I expect she will skinchange a bird, probably a small hawk, like a merlin.  She has been called "little bird" and the hawk is a popular animal companion for a lady.  I doubt she will spy much with it; she's too proper and rule-bound.

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