mormont Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I missed the speech. Is the satanism compulsory? Because if so, I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken one Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I love the argument about "common past" as justification for the incorporation. This means Poland, Finland and Baltic states may be annexed and I have no doubts about outcome of Russia organized referendums, such would be our will . Putin "recognised indepence" of Kherson and Zaporozhia regions, but nobody had proclaimed it, so there was nothing to recognise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Weirdly low-key speech, but then Putin does do that, he'll issue some threat and then make some reasonable-sounding - by his standards - speech and then vanish for two months and the cycle resets. Clearly it's bollocks and even he realises he's gone off the deep end here and absolutely nobody is buying it. He even seemed to acknowledge that Ukraine is going to go on fighting. Still, he clearly rumbled Britian's Invisible Undetectable Stealth Drones that we're going to use to blow up pipelines we don't really care about. Oh no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrim Fox Cauthon Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 On the day that Russia announces annexation, Ukraine has formally applied for NATO membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Matrim Fox Cauthon said: On the day that Russia announces annexation, Ukraine has formally applied for NATO membership. They've also driven the Russians into a full-scale retreat from Lyman, from the look of it. Their troll game is epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrim Fox Cauthon Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Werthead said: They've also driven the Russians into a full-scale retreat from Lyman, from the look of it. Their troll game is epic. I'm not sure if it's possible to put into words just how much of a monumental strategic f***-up this "special operation" has been for Putin and Russia. Almost every strategic goal has yielded the opposite result. Even many of Russias long-time 'allies' are telling him 'no' to his face and looking for ways out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Werthead said: They've also driven the Russians into a full-scale retreat from Lyman, from the look of it. Their troll game is epic. Was Lyman captured in February or was it part of the Severodonesk push in June and July? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Was Lyman captured in February or was it part of the Severodonesk push in June and July? Lyman was one of the first cities to fall in the Donbas offensive. It was seized by Russian troops in a long battle in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 @DMC seriously why were they so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken one Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Ukrainians managed to enlarge bridgehead around Eastern part of Kupiansk and made connection to bridgehead east od Dvorichne (settlement north of Kupiansk). Heavy fighting at Borove (south of Kupiansk). Russians counter-strike from Kreminna to Lyman, trying to break encirclement of the latter town. If they fail (fingers crossed) about 3000 Russian soldiers will be f****d. Less optimistic (if true) news from the South. Russians claim they reduced Ukrainian bridgehead at Davidovy Brod, reaching Suhyi Stavok. They allegedly repelled attack of Ukrainian mechanised unit in direction of Kherson, (at Kiselivka?), destroying some vehicles. Ukrainian SU-24 was shot down in the area. Ukrainians have not disclaimed this. No recent reports on himarsing bridges over Dnipro. Some of the launchers were probably moved to the Eastern front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 More potential news - looks like Ukraine are again ahead of the planning and used the reinforcement to Lyman as a way to roll up other parts of the front. While I'm sure it's not seamless and easy, this also has a very good possibility of causing another broad collapse across a large swath of area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 How does Russia annex what it hasn't got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrim Fox Cauthon Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, KalVsWade said: More potential news - looks like Ukraine are again ahead of the planning and used the reinforcement to Lyman as a way to roll up other parts of the front. While I'm sure it's not seamless and easy, this also has a very good possibility of causing another broad collapse across a large swath of area. Seems like Ukraine are trying to threaten Svatove and Kremmina to force Russia to either choose or spread their forces too thin trying to reinforce both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, Zorral said: How does Russia annex what it hasn't got? Nuclear blackmail. Which fortunately hasn't worked so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken one Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 The section of front is held by Luhansk troops (mobiki, as Russians call them), supported by a few units subsidiary to ministry of internal affairs, not regular army. So there is a chance for spectacular breakdown of the front. Wagner boys are bleeding at Bachmut and most of seadsoned, regular Russian troops are still in the South Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 I’m listening to this right now. It’s fascinating: https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1ynJOageYXVKR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 7 hours ago, KalVsWade said: @DMC seriously why were they so bad ....WTF? How the fuck should I know? Am I god of polling now? Seriously, I have no idea why you're @'ing me about this. I honestly have no clue what you're even talking about, other than obviously those polls were wrong and this is upsetting to you for some reason. So? "With great power comes great responsibility" and all that, but it seems you're giving me all the responsibility for no reason when I have absolutely no power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Forgive me if I'm missing that you're playing along with a multilayered joke DMC, but if you're genuinely confused I think Kal is just making a joke about your usual dynamic with each other in US Politics with respect to polls being applied to a scenario with a result that's not even pretending to be legitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Thanks Obama... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, karaddin said: Forgive me if I'm missing that you're playing along with a multilayered joke DMC, but if you're genuinely confused I think Kal is just making a joke about your usual dynamic with each other in US Politics with respect to polls being applied to a scenario with a result that's not even pretending to be legitimate. I'm not confused about that, kar, no. That's why the "joke" is much more just being a dick for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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