The Anti-Targ Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 41 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said: What’s the problem? Absolutely no downsides to people taking antibiotics for non-bacterial infections… … oh wait … I’ve actually noticed my GP being more lax than orevious with regards to this, prescribing them over the phone. But this is a lot worse. When the entire leadership of the medical community and public health agencies are desperately trying to get people to use less antibiotics. It is a bit of a worry that some GPs are prescribing antibiotics over the phone. One of the few times I can really think that's a good idea is when you were prescribed antibiotics after an in-person consultation and you have still not sufficiently recovered to safely stop taking them without the infection flaring up. So you get an extended prescription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: It is a bit of a worry that some GPs are prescribing antibiotics over the phone. It isn't. GPs are trained doctors with years of experience, antibiotics are exactly the right thing to do with certain indications - and that's why you're calling a GP. Delayed prescriptions are also a thing. You do not need to see someone physically to make that decision. I can think of 5-10 examples off the top of my head where the story is more than enough. Edit - this doesn't mean I'm not for Abx stewardship though, it's an important issue and the reason why pharmacists shouldn't be making that decision. Edited October 15, 2022 by Raja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Also pharmacists are not 'just someone who works in a chemist'. It takes a lot more training than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, mormont said: Good to see sensible evidence-based policy-making from the Health Secretary and Deputy Prime Minister there. Oh FFS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 It's a clinical decision, which pharmacists are not trained to make. I love pharmacists & they are an invaluable resource but the decision to prescribe antibotics rests with healthcare professionals trained to make that decision. Which Tyler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Btw, I'd be referred to the GMC if I were handing out antibiotics to my friends and family. Also Edited October 15, 2022 by Raja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 55 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: I would guess she could try to wriggle out of being responsible for the original cut of the 45p rate and the corporate tax rate by saying that it is the Chancellor's responsibility to do the sums and make sure the plan adds up, and she signed off on it at his word that the calculations supported these cuts. Y'know, by the time you get to be chancellor you shouldn't need the PM to check your homework. One could even argue that Truss is too thick to be able to understand the accounting stuff and does need to complete trust her Chancellor to get the numbers right. But this is exactly what the Office for Budget Responsibility is for, checking the Chancellor’s sums add up, and they offered to do it, and both Kwarteng and Truss refused. ants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luzifer's right hand Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) I honestly doubt that cutting human use will work in the mid term if the use of antibiotics in factory farming is not completely outlawed. It might do some good in the short term but in the long term the ship has sailed imo. I recently read that they have failed to reserve key antibiotics for human use only in the EU because the meat industry is far more powerful than doctors will ever be. Edited October 15, 2022 by Luzifer's right hand Poobah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Spockydog said: @BigFatCoward I would like to report a crime. You have offered a met police inspector 'primo weed' on this very website. I'm not sure you are in a position to get all judgey. Wade1865, Spockydog, Week and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: You have offered a met police inspector 'primo weed' on this very website. I'm not sure you are in a position to get all judgey. Any excuse to avoid taking a crime report … ants, Spockydog, Week and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigFatCoward Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 31 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Any excuse to avoid taking a crime report … I haven't put a crime report on in 15 years. I doubt I even could anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: I haven't put a crime report on in 15 years. I doubt I even could anymore. Fuck me! What was your last case, Inspector Abberline, the Ripper murders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: I haven't put a crime report on in 15 years. I doubt I even could anymore. After moving to london i've realized how many of the met police officers have that thin blue line badge. It's 8/10 of the police that end up in our department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: I haven't put a crime report on in 15 years. I doubt I even could anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 It's depressing and distressing that we've fallen so far that Jeremy Hunt has been in the job for one day and immediately come off as an enormous step up. Like how is Jeremy Hunt the adult in the room. Makes me sick, motherfucker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, polishgenius said: Makes me sick, motherfucker... Bunk was a wise man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 He may come off as a step up but he's talking about spending cuts for public services in one of his first interviews, and this is on the background of public services already getting a spending cut because of inflation. Doesn't fill me with any confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 9 hours ago, mormont said: But this is exactly what the Office for Budget Responsibility is for, checking the Chancellor’s sums add up, and they offered to do it, and both Kwarteng and Truss refused. Details. The only way Truss would fail to pull off that kind of excuse is if she hadn't already lost the trust and confidence of her party and the public... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/10/15/project-fear-right-along/ Archived version here: https://archive.ph/nLgi4 Quote Project Fear was right all along Six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has brought a calamitous loss of standing... Downbeat predictions by the Treasury and others on the economic consequences of leaving the EU, contemptuously dismissed at the time by Brexit campaigners as "Project Fear", have been on a long fuse, but they have turned out to be overwhelmingly correct, and if anything have underestimated both the calamitous loss of international standing and the scale of the damage that six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has imposed on the country.... ARTICLE CONTINUES Edited October 16, 2022 by Which Tyler Pebble thats Stubby and Derfel Cadarn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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