Here's Looking At You, Kid Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 and why Daenerys can defeat the forces of Westeros. I have read the two threads debating the effectiveness of Daenerys Targaryen's armed forces against the forces of Westeros. Now, it is obvious to me that the Anti-Daenerys folks are not going to be convinced, so this thread may not be for them. They have dug themselves into a position and will stay there. But for those who are already on Team Daenerys or who possess a reasonable level of objectivity, read on. The armed of forces of Westeros are composed of peasants, farm workers, craftsmen, fishermen, and builders. Soldiering is not their livelihoods. Most of them have never been in battle. A wealthy family like the Lannisters might be able to equip most of their soldiers with decent quality weapon but they are the exception. The economy of Westeros cannot support a large, standing army. What it has is a small number of knights. Some are very good, most are going to be mediocre, and a significant number are there for show. They would make Oznak look like a pro. You see, in Westeros, the people who will be called to fight are the economic engine. They produce the goods needed for the population to eat, have shelter, and maintain livable conditions. Any lengthy war will be devastating because the leaders will send their labor force to go to battle. Just about everything needed by the people will stop being produced. Social order will break down. They will definitely run to hide inside their castles. But as you can see from Roose's dilema in Winterfell, supplies will run out very quickly. Battle horses will become food after the mice and vermin have been consumed. There will be desertion where soldiers will sneak out at night. Men will turn to cannibalism. Are mothers psychologically prepared to see their farmboy sons die? I don't think so. Farmboys are not supposed to die in battle. Most have never experienced battle. The Dothraki, The Unsullied, and the mercenaries are all professional fighting forces. To the Dothraki, warfare IS the economy. The culture they come from are accustomed to casualties and the hardships of war. The Unsullied are even better. The dragons are not needed as long as Daenerys can bring a number that is sufficiently close to the number of the enemy. So if Westeros can squeeze 50K able-bodies from their farms, Daenerys will need close to that. And all of hers will be able-bodied, armed, trained, and by then, experienced. Of the 50K from the Westeros side, maybe 5K will be annointed knights. They won't all have good quality armor. It depends on their finances. Daenerys will need the advantage she has because it is usually harder to be on the offense. The attacking force need the advantage in most cases. If Team Daenerys can build war machines out of boat timber, like they did, they can surely build effective equipment to lay siege to any castle in Westeros. They have no need to batter the gates or the walls. Just the belief can put stress on the army hiding inside. Food, arrows, weapons, and horses can always be resupplied from Essos and the Free Cities. Daenerys will have Essos to support her campaign. The men whom she rescued from slavery will be bringing important skills. Crafts people, healers, carpenters, farmers, and herders. They will provide the army with what is needed. George Martin can do what he wants. He can make Patchface the most formidable warrior ever to carry a sword. But we are making this evaluation based on what we have read from the text. And when a man like Robert fear the Dothraki, there is a good reason to believe that they will be very effective in Westeros. The addition of the Unsullied provides a magnificent synergy. The Gizzard of Oz, MisbornHeir, Rondo and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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