mormont Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 So do we think that the schadenfreude is greater in the Sunak household, or at the Johnsons' place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrim Fox Cauthon Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, mormont said: So do we think that the schadenfreude is greater in the Sunak household, or at the Johnsons' place? Either way, the UK loses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 https://news.sky.com/story/majority-of-tory-party-members-want-truss-to-resign-now-and-want-boris-johnson-to-replace-her-12723609 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: https://news.sky.com/story/majority-of-tory-party-members-want-truss-to-resign-now-and-want-boris-johnson-to-replace-her-12723609 considering the majority of Tory party members chose Truss just a few weeks ago, I'm not sure their judgement is to be relied upon as to what makes a good PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 31 minutes ago, Pebble thats Stubby said: considering the majority of Tory party members chose Truss just a few weeks ago, I'm not sure their judgement is to be relied upon as to what makes a good PM. There’s also been discussion among Tory mps in bringing back Mae. Eventually I think there will be an attempt rescuerct thatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 This so-called 'economic historian' was trained in libertarian schools, programs and think tanks, like his trussed birdy-wirdy liz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Honestly, guys, I thought no one could touch the US (in terms of senior democracies) when it came to crazy politics. The US outstripped the Italians a long, long time ago. But I guess ‘hold my beer’ has just become too popular. What’s next, asking if it’s safe to travel to the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, Zorral said: I'm failing to see what's confusing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Welsh First Minister losing his shit at the Welsh Tory leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: I'm failing to see what's confusing there. That it’s unhinged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 As fun and schadenfreudy this whole UK Truss own goal has been, I still think it's far more healthy of a situation than what the US has and still does not hold a candle to that level of dysfunction. Except perhaps in the humor category. Having a country that occasionally decides on bad leadership and then almost immediately pivots to something better due to mass outrage and condemnation is not as bad off as a country that has atrocious leadership and does nothing or actively rewards it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, Kalnestk Oblast said: Having a country that occasionally decides on bad leadership and then almost immediately pivots to something better due to mass outrage and condemnation That's not really an accurate descriptor of what's been happening, to be honest. It's been a steadily descending line in the quality of PMs since the Tories took over, and the only reason Truss has been apparently removed from effective power so quickly is because she quite literally edged close to collapsing the country within a month. The replacement policies here aren't going to be good- they're just going to be less immediately catastrophic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 53 minutes ago, Kalnestk Oblast said: As fun and schadenfreudy this whole UK Truss own goal has been, I still think it's far more healthy of a situation than what the US has and still does not hold a candle to that level of dysfunction. Except perhaps in the humor category. Having a country that occasionally decides on bad leadership and then almost immediately pivots to something better due to mass outrage and condemnation is not as bad off as a country that has atrocious leadership and does nothing or actively rewards it. Oh the US is tittering on fascism with people in government loudly proclaiming democracy to be evil, and the sexual minorities are coming to rape your kids, and immigration is a plot to kill the white race etc. Maybe the UK catches up in a few years though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Which Tyler said: I'm failing to see what's confusing there. Don't worry about it. He's a compulsive who follows me around the board clicking on confused and laughing emojis to indicate insanity at any comment I make because everybody needs a hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Zorral said: Don't worry about it. He's a compulsive who follows me around the board clicking on confused and laughing emojis to indicate insanity at any comment I make because everybody needs a hobby. A more apt word may be kink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, polishgenius said: That's not really an accurate descriptor of what's been happening, to be honest. It's been a steadily descending line in the quality of PMs since the Tories took over, and the only reason Truss has been apparently removed from effective power so quickly is because she quite literally edged close to collapsing the country within a month. The replacement policies here aren't going to be good- they're just going to be less immediately catastrophic. True, but it’s also not like it was some great win for democracy either. Truss and Kwarteng came up with a mad plan that scared the shit out of the markets and it was essentially the markets that did for them. There wasn’t any sort of popular uprising or triumph for the ballot box and we are unlikely to now have anything very much better either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Fragile Bird said: Honestly, guys, I thought no one could touch the US (in terms of senior democracies) when it came to crazy politics. The US outstripped the Italians a long, long time ago. But I guess ‘hold my beer’ has just become too popular. What’s next, asking if it’s safe to travel to the UK? We'll know the Tories have gone full Republican when they seriously try to push gun culture in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: We'll know the Tories have gone full Republican when they seriously try to push gun culture in the UK. Eh, An Abortion culture seems closer to the near future if the tories don’t get obliterated(god willing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Welsh First Minister losing his shit at the Welsh Tory leader Is pencil breaking after dressing someone down a Welsh thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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