Ring3r Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said: Sansa doesn't have the medication to give to SR for his morphine withdrawal. In fact, I'm not even sure maesters have this kind of knowledge at all. I'm pretty sure it's nightshade, not morphine. Nightshade does the things that Robin's "medication" does, and it does build up in the system over time. GRRM renamed most medicines and diseases (except poppy, apparently) but this particular one behaves exactly like nightshade As for whether Sansa is intentionally trying to poison him, I do not think so. I think Baelish is for sure, and he's going to blame the whole thing on the maester. Sansa will feel terrible. Edited October 30, 2022 by Ring3r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMantis Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Nathan Stark said: As to Sansa, contradictory things can be true. I believe she is slowly poisoning Sweetrobin, and deep, deep down she knows that he is being poisoned. I don't believe she wants him to die, and she appears to sincerely think that what she is doing will benefit him in the end. That said, Sansa has a real failing in her tendency for denial. It's too painful to contemplate that Sweetrobin is dying, so she deludes herself that he's just fine. It's even more painful to admit that he's dying because she is poisoning him, so she tells herself that actually the sweetsleep is helping him get better, somehow. Sansa does have such a tendency, but the fact remains that the last time she gave him sweetsleep was before she learned of Littlefinger's plot about her marrying Harrold Hardying. At that time, it would make no sense for Littlefinger to want Sweetrobin dead, since his whole power rested upon being his Lord Protector, so Sansa would have no conceivable reason to believe he was being poisoned. She might be closing her eyes about him being poisoned after that but this isn't the same as poisoning him herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Ring3r said: I'm pretty sure it's nightshade, not morphine. Nightshade does the things that Robin's "medication" does, and it does build up in the system over time. GRRM renamed most medicines and diseases (except poppy, apparently) but this particular one behaves exactly like nightshade As for whether Sansa is intentionally trying to poison him, I do not think so. I think Baelish is for sure, and he's going to blame the whole thing on the maester. Sansa will feel terrible. My mistake I thought he was given milk of the poppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontius Pilate Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 22 hours ago, Kierria said: Sweetrobin is slowly being poisoned. It is not yet a crime of murder because the child is still alive but Sansa is part of the insidious plot to murder the child and take all that is his. Will Sansa go through with the murder? The odds are close to even but does lean lightly to Sansa doing the crime. Look back on Sansa's past and tell me what you think. Tell me what you think will happen. She had compassion for Dontos, the last of his family. Robin is the last of the Arryns. She can save him or she can kill him. Whatever serves her interests in that moment. Her selfish side will rear its head again and tragic if it should happen at that moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Marsh Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Hardyng will promise to marry her if she would murder Robert Arryn. Sansa will do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, Bowen Marsh said: Hardyng will promise to marry her if she would murder Robert Arryn. Sansa will do it. They are already betrothed, and Sansa most likely wouldn't really mind if she doesn’t marry him nor she is particularly impressed by him. Lyanna<3Rhaegar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Marsh Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said: They are already betrothed, and Sansa most likely wouldn't really mind if she doesn’t marry him nor she is particularly impressed by him. That will change. Sansa is drawn to power and those who can elevate her social status. As I said, she is selfish. Nathan Stark and Lyanna<3Rhaegar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bowen Marsh said: That will change. Sansa is drawn to power and those who can elevate her social status. As I said, she is selfish. Not anymore, not after Joffrey. After him she would rather live her own life quietly. And Sansa wasn't drawn by power or social elevation but by her dreams of living the perfect romance tales. Edited October 30, 2022 by Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Springwatch, Nathan Stark and Corvo the Crow 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gizzard of Oz Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 10:41 AM, Kierria said: Sweetrobin is slowly being poisoned. It is not yet a crime of murder because the child is still alive but Sansa is part of the insidious plot to murder the child and take all that is his. Will Sansa go through with the murder? The odds are close to even but does lean lightly to Sansa doing the crime. Look back on Sansa's past and tell me what you think. Tell me what you think will happen. She stood with Joffrey in the past even when she knew it was wrong. She will repeat herself and stand by LF and Hardyng. I think she will kill that little boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Gizzard of Oz said: She stood with Joffrey in the past even when she knew it was wrong. As soon as she saw what Joffrey was really like, Sansa wanted nothing to do with him. 13 minutes ago, The Gizzard of Oz said: She will repeat herself and stand by LF and Hardyng. I think she will kill that little boy. If anything she'd be anxious not to repeat the mistake she made with Joffrey. So no, I don't think she'd murder Sweetrobin just because Harry told her to. Angel Eyes and Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Craving Peaches said: As soon as she saw what Joffrey was really like, Sansa wanted nothing to do with him. If anything she'd be anxious not to repeat the mistake she made with Joffrey. So no, I don't think she'd murder Sweetrobin just because Harry told her to. “Life holds nothing further for this drooling, helpless, idiot boy. In truth, it were a mercy should his sufferings be ended painlessly”, is how LF will put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Craving Peaches said: As soon as she saw what Joffrey was really like, Sansa wanted nothing to do with him. If anything she'd be anxious not to repeat the mistake she made with Joffrey. So no, I don't think she'd murder Sweetrobin just because Harry told her to. She saw what Joffrey was really like at the Trident and she was fine with it, but then I suppose it was only a smelly butcher boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aebram Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said: They are already betrothed, They are? Where does the text say that? sweetsunray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, Aebram said: They are? Where does the text say that? LF is trying to get Sansa betrothed to HtH, but the sale is not final yet as Harry doesn't want to marry LF's bastard daughter. LF wants Sansa to flirt and tease Harold and get the betrothal cemented. The deal sale betrothal is not done yet. Sansa has reminded LF that she is already married and doesn't want to be married again any time soon and especially not for her claim to WF. SR knows that Harry is his heir and he thinks Harry wants him dead for that reason. LF also wants SR dead, I do think the opposite will happen and SR will live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moiraine Sedai Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 HH wants Sansa for a playmate. He’s not interested in marrying an illegitimate girl. Sansa will only kill Sweetrobin if HH is willing to marry her. She has nowhere to go and nothing to gain by killing SR unless a betrothal to Harold is guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wm Portnoy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 10:41 AM, Kierria said: Sweetrobin is slowly being poisoned. It is not yet a crime of murder because the child is still alive but Sansa is part of the insidious plot to murder the child and take all that is his. Will Sansa go through with the murder? The odds are close to even but does lean lightly to Sansa doing the crime. Look back on Sansa's past and tell me what you think. Tell me what you think will happen. Sansa is not evil but she is heading towards the darkness. She will be the one to take Robin's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 8:53 PM, Bowen Marsh said: That will change. Sansa is drawn to power and those who can elevate her social status. As I said, she is selfish. And who would elevate her? Harry the son of a lowly landed knight, a vassal of a vassal of a vassal? Sansa is the daughter to the second most powerful LP(first is reach), only way her social status can be elevated is through a marriage to the Royal family. Lyanna<3Rhaegar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 4:53 AM, Bowen Marsh said: That will change. Sansa is drawn to power and those who can elevate her social status. As I said, she is selfish. That's where she's headed sure. So why would she kill Sweetrobin for Harry? She has more control over Sweetrobin than she could hope to exert over Harry. The person in the way of her control of the Vale is Littlefinger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wadsworth Longfellow Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Sansa's past revealed a senseless selfish girl. She is capable of murder if the reward is enticing enough. Lady of the Eyrie is that enticement. On 10/29/2022 at 10:41 AM, Kierria said: Look back on Sansa's past and tell me what you think. Tell me what you think will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 hours ago, H Wadsey Longfellow said: She is capable of murder if the reward is enticing enough. Where is this coming from? Lyanna<3Rhaegar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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