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Since there Hasn’t been any shipping threads recently, here’s one. What are some foreshadowings, clues, etc for JonSa?

I’ll start with a jealous Jon.

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“Joffrey likes your sister," Jeyne whispered, proud as if she had something to do with it. She was the daughter of Winterfell's steward and Sansa's dearest friend. "He told her she was very beautiful."

"He's going to marry her," little Beth said dreamily, hugging herself. "Then Sansa will be queen of all the realm."

Sansa had the grace to blush. She blushed prettily. She did everything prettily, Arya thought with dull resentment. "Beth, you shouldn't make up stories," Sansa corrected the younger girl, gently stroking her hair to take the harshness out of her words. She looked at Arya. "What did you think of Prince Joff, sister? He's very gallant, don't you think?"

"Jon says he looks like a girl," Arya said.

Sansa sighed as she stitched. "Poor Jon," she said. "He gets jealous because he's abastard."

Poor Jon, he gets jealous because he’s a bastard so he won’t be marrying any blushing maids( a redhead one like ygritte too no less) to make them  queen of the all realm… But what if he’s not a bastard but a crown prince? Would he then make Sansa queen of all the realm?

 

In his very first chapter, we see Jon thinking of Sansa as Radiant. Radiant is only used four times in the entire series and one the other three involves another Tully and another Jon, Jon Arryn's marriage to Lysa Tully. 

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His half sisters escorted the royal princes. Arya was paired with plump young Tommen, whose white-blond hair was longer than hers. Sansa, two years older, drew the crown prince, Joffrey Baratheon. He was twelve, younger than Jon or Robb, but taller than either, to Jon's vast dismay. Prince Joffrey had his sister's hair and his mother's deep green eyes. A thick tangle of blond curls dripped down past his golden choker and high velvet collar. Sansa looked radiant as she walked beside him, but Jon did not like Joffrey's pouty lips or the bored, disdainful way he looked at Winterfell's Great Hall. -AGOT Jon I

 

"I believe she liked me. Why was she crying?"

"She's a maid on the eve of her wedding. A few tears are to be expected." Lysa had wept lakes the morning of their own wedding, though she had managed to be dry-eyed and radiant when Jon Arryn swept his cream-and-blue cloak about her shoulders.

"She's prettier than I dared hope." Edmure raised a hand before she could speak. "I know there are more important things, spare me the sermon, septa. Even so . . . did you see some of those other maids Frey trotted out? The one with the twitch? Was that the shaking sickness? And those twins had more craters and eruptions on their faces than Petyr Pimple. When I saw that lot, I knew Roslin would be bald and one-eyed, with Jinglebell's wits and Black Walder's temper. But she seems gentle as well as fair." He looked perplexed. "Why would the old weasel refuse to let me choose unless he meant to foist off someone hide -ASoS Catelyn IV

 

"How is Cersei? As beautiful as ever?"

"Radiant." Fickle. "Golden." False as fool's gold. Last night he dreamed he'd found her fucking Moon Boy. He'd killed the fool and smashed his sister's teeth to splinters with his golden hand, just as Gregor Clegane had done to poor Pia. In his dreams Jaime always had two hands; one was made of gold, but it worked just like the other. "The sooner we are done with Riverrun, the sooner I'll be back at Cersei's side." What Jaime would do then he did not know. -AFFC Jaime V

 

To rule Meereen I must win the Meereenese, however much I may despise them. "I am ready," she told Irri.

Reznak and Skahaz waited atop the marble steps. "Great queen," declared Reznak mo Reznak, "you are so radiant today I fear to look on you." The seneschal wore a tokar of maroon silk with a golden fringe. A small, damp man, he smelled as if he had bathed in perfume and spoke a bastard form of High Valyrian, much corrupted and flavored with a thick Ghiscari growl. -ADWD Daenerys I

 

A previous Sansa, heir(daughter of) a previous Rickon Stark(heir of Cregan the Old Man of the North) married a HALF-Uncle JONnel ONE EYE whose mother was, Lynara Stark. What a coincidence that our Sansa is also the heir of a Rickon and has a HALF relation who, despite having both eyes can be considered "one eye" in the form of her HALF brother JON with his handsome scar given to him by Orell's eagle.

If we can take an eagle as a replacement for a falcon, things get more interesting since Jon stole his first redhead from the claws of an eagle in it's nest atop a mountain  and Sansa, another red(Auburn) haired character is also in the nest of a predatory bird, a falcon, atop a mountain, the Eyrie(literally falcon nest). Oh and one more funny thing, the mountain that Jon stole his first head, it's part of a valley called the Skirling Pass. Skirling is... a little Salmon or TROUT, the sigil of... Tully's, the house that Sansa's mother, who gave her coloring, from. skirling - Wiktionary

 

In the original draft with the five year jump, There was going to be a love triangle between Jon, Tyrion and Arya. With this five year gap scrapped, Arya would no longer be in the appropriate age, but Sansa is and she has already married to Tyrion, who coincidentally also has his wildlings like Jon and these wildlings affectionately refer to him as "Halfman" in their battle crys. So a half-brother half-man love triangle?

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2 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said:

Since there Hasn’t been any shipping threads recently, here’s one. What are some foreshadowings, clues, etc for JonSa?

I’ll start with a jealous Jon.

Poor Jon, he gets jealous because he’s a bastard so he won’t be marrying any blushing maids( a redhead one like ygritte too no less) to make them  queen of the all realm… But what if he’s not a bastard but a crown prince? Would he then make Sansa queen of all the realm?

He is a bastard. he is not a crown prince. He will never be legitimised or become the king in the north.

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7 hours ago, Corvo the Crow said:

But what if he’s not a bastard but a crown prince? Would he then make Sansa queen of all the realm?

I think even if Jon turns out not to be a bastard it wouldn't matter in the end. He was offered the crown to the North by Stannis before, I don't think he'd abandon his vows to a second offer either. In the event that did happen though, I don't think he'd marry Sansa either. Jon knows at this point how politics work, he'd marry a woman whose marriage would be advantageous to the realm, and however Sansa would be a good queen, I don't think she'd be a proper choice. My bet would be on a southern lady, a Tyrell, a Lannister, a Martell of Dorne. Shirreen Baratheon would be a choice if overall Stannis wasn't so disliked by the rest of Westeros.

 

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7 hours ago, frenin said:

Jon, Tyrion, Sandor...

 

1 hour ago, SeanF said:

Margaery, Petyr, Ramsay

Let's not forget Willas, Loras, Joffery, Joff is included as Sansa fantasied the marriage until she knew better, Harry the Heir and I'm sure there are others.  

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2 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said:

You’re on a roll, I love it! 

Remember the good old days when a food fight about Sansa would break out about every two days?  So many have a stake in who Sansa will end up with it's actually pretty funny.    :)

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1 minute ago, LongRider said:

Remember the good old days when a food fight about Sansa would break out about every two days?  So many have a stake in who Sansa will end up with it's actually pretty funny.    :)

Oh yeah, I remember.  It’s a ship graveyard tbh. :lol:

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