Zorral Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 SF writers with very large twit following are seeing their attendees noticeably dropping, day-by-day, so far. Scalzi, of course, has it spread sheeted. He actually seems surprised this has happened to his twitter as his followers are so very loyal. Stross and Gibson, etc., as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Zorral said: SF writers with very large twit following are seeing their attendees noticeably dropping, day-by-day, so far. Scalzi, of course, has it spread sheeted. He actually seems surprised this has happened to his twitter as his followers are so very loyal. Stross and Gibson, etc., as well. I assume you mean followers. They've been cleaning out a lot of bots, and I suspect far more bots are being removed than there are actual people quitting Twitter ATM. We've lost a couple hundred ourselves since Musk purchased Twitter, which I suspect tracks pretty well to the amount of bots. I suspect we'll lose a few hundred more as they continue weeding them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Well Twitter suggested 5% of its population are bots, but there was other research suggesting it could be something like 20%! Getting rid of those would make a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) I knew England wasn’t a real place. Edited November 9, 2022 by Varysblackfyre321 Week and JGP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Heartofice said: Well Twitter suggested 5% of its population are bots, but there was other research suggesting it could be something like 20%! Getting rid of those would make a huge difference. The 5% (<5% typically referenced) was among monetizable daily active users (mdau) and not population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 OTOH, numbers of fannish people and others have quit twit, and / or are looking for other places. Though again, like many, though they've quit commenting or posting, they frequently are holding on to their accounts to 'wait and see,' which is silly, considering the owner. Discord is one of the venues suggested as the island in the storm, though nobody likes any of them, including Mastodon, very much, for a lot of reasons, including how difficult Mastodon is to get started on -- learning curve! People are even returning to venues such as Dream Width after having deserted in droves LJ for it, then deserting DW for Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Absolute clown show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Not to worry, Musk's already ordered it removed. JGP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, polishgenius said: Not to worry, Musk's already ordered it removed. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked. maarsen, baxus, mormont and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felice Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Zorral said: OTOH, numbers of fannish people and others have quit twit, and / or are looking for other places. Though again, like many, though they've quit commenting or posting, they frequently are holding on to their accounts to 'wait and see,' which is silly, considering the owner. I wouldn't expect all that many users to bother actually deleting their accounts; they'll just stop using them, which won't affect nominal follower numbers. And stopping use will be a gradual process, not an immediate one. I'd expect users who want to leave Twitter would post a lot less than they used to, but still keep reading until most of the people they follow have also quit posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) Elno, continuing to fail to run a business in broad daylight for everyone to watch. Other than heavy compliance and additional regulatory oversight, significantly cut and weaker staff, countries where this would be banned, and needing to actually get users to *do* this ... Seems like a slam dunk ... Edited November 9, 2022 by Week JGP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 It's clear that he doesn't want Twitter to be Twitter at all. Everything he floats is some other great big tech company, already doing it. Youtube! Google! Now banking! Can selling toothpaste by mail like amazon be far behind?: What bs one can spout and have attention for it just because billionaire. He's living proof that smoking weed isn't good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, Zorral said: He's living proof that smoking weed isn't good for you. Oh, hush! C'mon Z! Let's not blame innocent flora. Zorral 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Zorral said: OTOH, numbers of fannish people and others have quit twit, and / or are looking for other places. Though again, like many, though they've quit commenting or posting, they frequently are holding on to their accounts to 'wait and see,' which is silly, considering the owner. Discord is one of the venues suggested as the island in the storm, though nobody likes any of them, including Mastodon, very much, for a lot of reasons, including how difficult Mastodon is to get started on -- learning curve! People are even returning to venues such as Dream Width after having deserted in droves LJ for it, then deserting DW for Twitter. This is like a total rehash of the crazy right attempting to leave Twitter to go on crap like Truth social or Parler or whatever. It's just now it's all the crazy left wing people doing it. It's very funny to watch. It's already been established there is no alternative to Twitter. Everyone is going to go running back (if they ever actually leave) Wade1865 and Darzin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) I thought it and I said it-- HoI, probably. --- I follow a metric fuckton of artists and writers, and many of them have already branched out to other platforms. Mastodon seems to be the big winner so far, but tbd. Most are still maintaining a wait and see approach so they're keeping their Twitter accounts for the short term, but plenty have already just up and left. Edited November 9, 2022 by JGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Week said: Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked. So we get the Llamas up next, or next-but-one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 It continues to astonish me to a large degree, how school-like the fannish world moves (which includes the writers too). I've witnessed this kind of migration take place a number of times. And it is always quick -- just like a con bar. A group is sitting there, one gets up and all the others do too. One day fannish circles begin to speculate there's a better place to be, and / or the sky is falling. Then some of the Somebodies declare the sky has fallen. The next day almost all have departed for pastures new. Wade1865 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, JGP said: I thought it and I said it-- HoI, probably. --- I follow a metric fuckton of artists and writers, and many of them have already branched out to other platforms. Mastodon seems to be the big winner so far, but tbd. Most are still maintaining a wait and see approach so they're keeping their Twitter accounts for the short term, but plenty have already just up and left. Nobody is going to be using Mastodon in a couple of years. All of these conversations were happening with the right when it came to Parler and any number of other alternatives that went nowhere. It’s total deja vu. You might see a big difference in your own echo chamber but nobody of any import is really going to stay away for too long unless they want to risk anonimity. JGP and Wade1865 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Ah... whew [wipes a tear of mirth] Week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: So we get the Llamas up next, or next-but-one? Llamas are on the case already. 27 minutes ago, Heartofice said: anonimity. Ok. Cool story. Your expertise vis a vis ignoring new information outside of an echo chamber comes from experience. Apparently all the clear evidence discovered and discussed from technologists, journalists, ad execs, business experts, and others about the financial, social, and business realities of Twitter's future can be safely ignored as "left wing echo chamber." Equating the reality of today to the faux outrage and faux business of Parler is ... incorrect. Edited November 9, 2022 by Week Prince of the North and Zorral 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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