JGP Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 And MSNBC called it for her. teej6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Well, well, well! Now if Warnock wins, Dems can't hide behind Manchinema anymore... Anyway, congratulations! JGP and Ser Scot A Ellison 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 As seen on Twitter: ‘OBSSESSED with dems keeping the senate during tiffany’s wedding’ Mindwalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Well… NBC is calling the Senate a Democratic Party hold. Martell Spy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Considering the state legislature gains - and if Hobbs holds on against Lake (as well as of course if Warnock beats Walker), there's a very compelling argument that this is the most successful midterm of the president's party in the modern era (meaning since FDR). And of course on the other side of the coin, Donald Trump is almost certainly the Biggest Loser in American political history. WINNING!!!! teej6, Ormond, Ser Scot A Ellison and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Heh, I bet the mood isn't all that good at the wedding, what with Daddy being very angry right now... Edited November 13, 2022 by Mindwalker LongRider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mindwalker said: Dems can't hide behind Manchinema anymore... Still need one of them. And let's face it, they played off each other the entire damn time. Anyway I still don't think they'll get the House despite Kornacki's admirably earnest hope right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Order us up some turtle stew. Wild that the House is still in play too. JGP and LongRider 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Best headline of the day for me: "Maybe the Real Red Wave Was the Litter Boxes Our Furry Kids Pissed In Along the Way" Ser Scot A Ellison and RumHam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Whew. Excellent news! The Georgia runoff does remain extremely important still though. Not only would it be an extra cushion against 2024, and an extra cushion against session absences, but there really are important differences between 50 and 51 seat majorities. At 51 seats, Democrats take majorities on the senate committees, rather than being even splits. So Schumer would no longer have to waste time with discharge petitions on the nominee Republicans are uniformly against. Also it means the committees would have subpoena power with just Democratic votes. So yeah, a great night, but Dec. 6 is still a key election. JGP, ants, LongRider and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I have a not so great thought. Manchin is up for re-election in WV in 2024. He’s the only statewide member of the Democratic Party left in WV holding a statewide office. What’s the over under on Manchin jumping ship to try to save his Senate seat in 2024? Mindwalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I have a not so great thought. Manchin is up for re-election in WV in 2024. He’s the only statewide member of the Democratic Party left in WV holding a statewide office. What’s the over under on Manchin jumping ship to try to save his Senate seat in 2024? Not a chance I think. Manchin is a lifelong party man. And, for all his positions that bother liberals, he strongly believes in raising taxes on the rich, which would make him a complete persona non grata in the Republican party. Now, Sinema, her I could maybe see flipping, but it seems unlikely still; especially if Hobbes beats Lake and shows that Democrats pretty conclusively have the upper hand in statewide elections in AZ. Tywin et al., Ser Scot A Ellison and teej6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Given the Senate win and the Sec. of State win what happened with the Governor’s race in Nevada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 It's tragic how much better it would be if NY Dem party wasn't in the hands of the utterly corrupt big money jerkwaddies it is -- we'd have MORE SEATS in the House. Ser Scot A Ellison and Mindwalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I like the sound of this: maarsen and Mindwalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Fez said: Now, Sinema, her I could maybe see flipping No. It's somewhat if not very likely Gallego beats Sinema in the primary. But can we stop this? At least for a minute? Joe Manchin as a Republican loses in the Republican primary in West Virginia. Kyrsten Sinema as a Republican loses in the Republican primary in Arizona. Full stop. They both know this. Maybe - maybe and eventually - things happen and they run as Independents, but can we please have a grace period beyond literally a few minutes? Ser Scot A Ellison, Tywin et al. and Ormond 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Given the Senate win and the Sec. of State win what happened with the Governor’s race in Nevada? Lombardo wasn't a crazy candidate and Nevadans understandably blamed Sisolak for the momentous hardship they've endured over the last four years. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, DMC said: No. It's somewhat if not very likely Gallego beats Sinema in the primary. But can we stop this? At least for a minute? Joe Manchin as a Republican loses in the Republican primary in West Virginia. Kyrsten Sinema as a Republican loses in the Republican primary in Arizona. Full stop. They both know this. Maybe - maybe and eventually - things happen and they run as Independents, but can we please have a grace period beyond literally a few minutes? Nope. Always gotta worry about the next thing. It's what Democrats do. To be clear, I don't think Sinema flips. I'm just saying if anyone did, it would be her, not Manchin. Mindwalker and Ser Scot A Ellison 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Impmk2 said: Now I can't get the image of Trump as Storm out of my head. Not sure he'd do as good a job as Halle Berry but it would be... something. Know what happens when a toady gets struck by lightning? Impmk2 and RumHam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Fez said: Always gotta worry about the next thing. It's what Democrats do. Buzzkill! I'd offer you some of my scotch but you don't deserve it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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