Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 The Ironborn attacking Lannisport and the Westerlands coasts if Balon hadn't been such a vengeful thick-headed and delusional prick fixated on a petty grudge against Ned Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 3:26 PM, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said: It just shows how much plot armor Littlefinger has. To be fair littlefinger doesnt need much plot armour, hes smart , ruthless and has wealth(or at least acess to it) ....but most importanly hes beholden to no one nor has he a fixed set path for power thus hes free to improvise on the spot without consulting anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alden Rothack Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, astarkchoice said: True but then again theres loads the starks shoulda done from building a western fleet , fixing up moat cailin, fix the broken tower,have the armourers work harder to arm up the nights watch and ask robert to send all criminals to bulk up the watch etc repopulate the gift and western coast, decimate the ironborn, kill off the boltons, settle the free folk particularly the thenns in the gift, recruit wargs and other skinchangers and shapeshifters, use blood magic to hatch dragons, recruit some giants etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 The Battle of the Green Fork but with Galbart or Robett Glover being the commander of the Northern army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said: The Battle of the Green Fork but with Galbart or Robett Glover being the commander of the Northern army. only if they get The White Wolf to help them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Alden Rothack said: only if they get The White Wolf to help them Why only with Jon Snow ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said: Why only with Jon Snow ? Tywin has ten times more cavalry, if he gets to use them the Northerners still lose however tens of thousands of horses panicking from the scent of direwolf gives the northern forces a huge advantage and they still tywins army before it can assemble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, Alden Rothack said: Tywin has ten times more cavalry, if he gets to use them the Northerners still lose however tens of thousands of horses panicking from the scent of direwolf gives the northern forces a huge advantage and they still tywins army before it can assemble They still have the possible advantage of surprise or Robett or Galbart instead of attacking on, could have chosen to use the environment to their advantage by instead installing his army in a defensive position up the river, meaning that Tywin's army would have a hard time dislodging them even with superior numbers and cavalry. Even if it's not possible to win, it still could be a strategic success. And above all there wouldn't be Roose Bolton's sabotaging and sacrifying other northern nobles and forces while preserving his, so doubtlessly the casualties both in lords/heirs and soldiers should be much less consequent than with Roose in command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said: They still have the possible advantage of surprise or Robett or Galbart instead of attacking on, could have chosen to use the environment to their advantage by instead installing his army in a defensive position up the river, meaning that Tywin's army would have a hard time dislodging them even with superior numbers and cavalry. Even if it's not possible to win, it still could be a strategic success. And above all there wouldn't be Roose Bolton's sabotaging and sacrifying other northern nobles and forces while preserving his, so doubtlessly the casualties both in lords/heirs and soldiers should be much less consequent than with Roose in command. I agree that it would be better than with Roose but them winning outright is even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 12 hours ago, Alden Rothack said: I agree that it would be better than with Roose but them winning outright is even better Of course but the goal of stalling Tywin would still be achieved and it would be even better if it's not too close to Harrenhal to prevent Tywin from using the castle as his strategic stronghold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said: Of course but the goal of stalling Tywin would still be achieved and it would be even better if it's not too close to Harrenhal to prevent Tywin from using the castle as his strategic stronghold. He probably lacks the men to hold it in this scenario, its stupidly big for where it is given that the red keep is smaller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 The Old Bear vs the King Beyond the Wall, with Jeor Mormont and his men taking a stan against Mance Rayder's army instead of the Others at the Fist of the First Men, either using their fortified position to try to fend off the Free Folks assault or betting everything on a cavalry charge against the core of Mance's army in the hope of killing Mance and breaking the Widlings' unity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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