Northern Sword Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Wyman Manderly is going out with a bang. A bit of the Northern tradition of the old guys go hunting in the winter to not burden the family. But in this case, he is taking enemies with him. Reading it the first time, it felt like he knew he wouldn't make it out. He may survive a bit, but not long. Sweet, sweet revenged. Also, he isn't done yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, Northern Sword said: How is this not at least partial justice for the Starks Because it is a cruel and unusual punishment. Executing the Freys involved would be justice. But in my view executing them and then feeding them to their unsuspecting kin is not going to end well for Wyman. I understand why he did it, I just think that there is an ongoing theme in the book that vengeance does not end well for anyone. Edit: I agree it is partial justice. The issue is the 'vengeance' component is too strong, so thematically I think Wyman won't live to the the end of the series. Does this make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Because it is a cruel and unusual punishment. Executing the Freys involved would be justice. But in my view executing them and then feeding them to their unsuspecting kin is not going to end well for Wyman. I understand why he did it, I just think that there is an ongoing theme in the book that vengeance does not end well for anyone. I get that. But I honestly don’t have a problem with it. It seems almost certain that the Freys will be wiped out by the end of the series. Ironic that despite their numbers, the Starks will outlive them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, KingEuronGreyjoy said: I get that. But I honestly don’t have a problem with it. I have no problem with him getting revenge on the Freys, I just don't think he'll live very long because of the way he went about it, due to what I believe is the theme of the book on the subject. A further issue is that guests who have nothing to do with the massacre may have unwittingly consumed human flesh through Wyman's actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring3r Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 He's gonna die, if he even survives having his throat cut. He didn't just bake the freys into pies....he gorged himself on those pies and bragged about how good they were. He's going to meet a particularly nasty end, I think. Maybe some men from Skaggos will accompany Davos back with Rickon and they'll eat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 9 hours ago, Northern Sword said: Wyman Manderly is going out with a bang. A bit of the Northern tradition of the old guys go hunting in the winter to not burden the family. But in this case, he is taking enemies with him. Reading it the first time, it felt like he knew he wouldn't make it out. He may survive a bit, but not long. Sweet, sweet revenged. Also, he isn't done yet... This. Wyman Manderly died the day he left White Harbor to join the wedding at Winterfell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrosh Lannister Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 He will die of old age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevets Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Wyman wasn't looking too good the last we saw of him. I don't think he necessarily expected to survive Winterfell and likely won't. As such, I would guess he has a succession plan in place. His cousin Marlon is in charge of the White Harbor garrison, so will probably be the de facto ruler in White Harbor if Wyman doesn't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wadsworth Longfellow Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Wyman is a completely dark character. He's gross. So yeah, I think George will keep him around. George isn't into gray. I would call his taste for characters really dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sword Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 21 hours ago, Craving Peaches said: Because it is a cruel and unusual punishment. Executing the Freys involved would be justice. But in my view executing them and then feeding them to their unsuspecting kin is not going to end well for Wyman. I understand why he did it, I just think that there is an ongoing theme in the book that vengeance does not end well for anyone. Edit: I agree it is partial justice. The issue is the 'vengeance' component is too strong, so thematically I think Wyman won't live to the the end of the series. Does this make sense? Fair enough. Yet consider this. Wyman Manderley and Family are still "new" to the North. So, they have to be more Northern then anyone else. I cant help but thinking of the little girl speaking out in his court. The North Remembers and Winter is coming for house Frey. Manderley basically represents fuck around and find out. Cruel or not. I approve of his actions. I also think he knows the consequence of his actions and is at peace with them. As his family will reap the street cred for it. At least in my head cannon, that's how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I would love to see him serving as one of the key advisors for the Starks after the return of the kids, and to see him meeting and interacting with other foreign houses and players. I would like to see the interactions between him and Stannis ofc, but also with Littlefinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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