Which of the less talked about characters do you feel sorry for.

[Lady_Qohor]

I know many other characters have suffered fates far worse but I always feel sorry for the captain's daughter whom Theon sleeps with in ACOK. She keeps throwing herself at him publicly in the Iron Islands and he keeps rejecting her, its almost painful to read.

She's not pretty, she's not smart, she's probably pregnant with a bastard, who knows how her father punished her after they left the Iron Islands, Theon 'ruined' her and he can't even be bothered to remember her name.

[Gilbert Green]

58 minutes ago, Aejohn the Conqueroo said:

Bronn would have to be in on it because he's either sleeping with Lollys or not sleeping with Lollys.

If he's not sleeping with Lollys, it would not necessarily be because he is in on it. 

It might be because Lollys (1) is pregnant or too soon past childbirth and hence not fertile; (2) notoriously unattractive; and (3) has a phobia of men due to her 50-rape PTSD.

All of which might be invention.  In any event, Bronn has no intention of touching her until she is ready to make him a baby of his own.

Then again, maybe he is in on it.  I'm just trying to keep the conspirators to a minimum.

58 minutes ago, Aejohn the Conqueroo said:

Are there any missing babies anywhere that would be potentially important enough to justify this ruse?  Maybe the whole point was securing a safe place for the child called Tyrion Tanner?

I would guess it is just a random unwanted baby, used for a ruse.  Varys has dealt before in random unwanted babies, at least according to Young Griff.  I would also imagine they are the source for his little birds.  

The baby might mean, among other things, that he does not have to sleep with Bronn just yet. 

The point of the ruse, I imagine, would not be secure a safe place for the baby, but rather to secure a safe place for Varys.  But it might be a better fate than having its tongue cut out.

[Aejohn the Conqueroo]

6 hours ago, Gilbert Green said:

Then again, maybe he is in on it.  I'm just trying to keep the conspirators to a minimum.

Makes sense. I know we have no details about their wedding and given her condition and history a bedding would have likely been out of the question. Still, I doubt he could keep it from Bronn. I may have to take another look at what he says to Tyrion about her though, maybe he really hasn't touched her at all entirely of his own choice.   Awful risky of Varys to expose himself to the chance that Bronn may just be into pregnant women with a not entirely traditional form of beauty.

Conspiracy would have to widen a bit at the beginning of Chapter 65 of Clash when they're both seen in the throne room. 

Edited November 25, 2022 by Aejohn the Conqueroo

[SeanF]

On the theme of Eastern slaves, I’d nominate the Sunset Girl, raped by Tyrion;  Sweets, used for sex by an incontinent pervert, and any of the 163 crucified children.

[Rondo]

I really feel sorry for Merrett Frey.  He never had a chance.  Stoneheart and her demons had already killed Petyr.  Those outlaws had no intentions of ever giving a fair hearing.  They took the money and killed Merrett too.  

[Craving Peaches]

5 hours ago, Rondo said:

I really feel sorry for Merrett Frey.  He never had a chance.  Stoneheart and her demons had already killed Petyr.  Those outlaws had no intentions of ever giving a fair hearing.  They took the money and killed Merrett too.

I don't feel sorry for him for taking part in the red wedding, but I do feel sorry that he suffered the accident which seemingly ruined his life. And I think the decision to kill anyone associated with the Freys, regardless of how involved they were in the Red Wedding, will not end well for the Brotherhood under Lady Stoneheart. I think the group will splinter.

[Lady Misery]

Marya Seaworth, has not seen her husband in years, lost four sons in a single day and now also believes the afromentioned husband was executed. Sure hers is by far not the worst fate, but she was the first one that came to mind.

[Darth Sidious]

Penny’s brother, Oppo.  The pig and the dog too.  

[SeanF]

Gilly, encountering the horror that is The Fat Pink Mast.

[King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd]

12 minutes ago, SeanF said:

Gilly, encountering the horror that is The Fat Pink Mast.

Oh come on. That was consensual! I was cheering for Sam…until I read that line. Then I just wanted it to be over.

[Tai Pan]

Anybody from Naath.  Peaceful and gentle Missandei and her brothers were forced to work for Kraznys. 

[The Bard of Banefort]

Myrielle Peake. Poor girl gets wheeled out and then humiliated when the king and his family decide that the right choice for him is the ultra-perfect-superior-to-all-other-ethnicities Valyrian girl (despite her being six). That was the one time where I felt like the Valyrian fetishism crossed the line from depiction to endorsement, and it was really gross to read. (And no, it was not “maester bias.” GRRM makes it extremely obvious in FnB when the maester is projecting or covering something up. There’s nothing to indicate that we shouldn’t have taken the praise for Daenaera’s beauty at face value). 

[Darth Sidious]

Gilly. She was forced to give up her own baby because a moron lord commander made her do it.  Her own baby is at Castle Black, in danger from Mellisandre and the Others.  That must be very hard on a mother. 

[Raven Princling]

Weasel. 

This might seem very random, but also the 20 perfumed boys from the slaver's galley Victarion obtains in Dance and later throws in the sea. I do not know why it always stuck with me. Probably because I find the idea of drowning in an ocean terrifying (especially considering they thought they were saved for a minute).

Edited November 29, 2022 by Raven Princling