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Star Wars: a story for every fan? (Andor Spoilers)


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There is an interesting aspect, to me, about Bad Batch now that we've also had Andor...the aesthetic of Andor swung back towards the seemingly grittier, less sophisticated nature of Episode IV vs. the shiny, naive optimism of the prequels. That was aareally good thing, I thought. And now we have season two of The Bad Batch, which really seems to be more about the military shift ultimately, but there does seem to be a shift in the aesthetic...it isn't to Andor levels yet, but it does feel like Filoni is trying to be cognizant of this...

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13 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

There is an interesting aspect, to me, about Bad Batch now that we've also had Andor...the aesthetic of Andor swung back towards the seemingly grittier, less sophisticated nature of Episode IV vs. the shiny, naive optimism of the prequels. That was aareally good thing, I thought. And now we have season two of The Bad Batch, which really seems to be more about the military shift ultimately, but there does seem to be a shift in the aesthetic...it isn't to Andor levels yet, but it does feel like Filoni is trying to be cognizant of this...

The ultimate point of TBB should be to depict the genesis of 'the proto Rebellion' if you will. Andor shows how a specific guy ends up in the Rebellion, TBB is already showing how the Empire becomes tyrannical and how crucial TCW characters and places suffer under its rule - and in what direction they will go from there.

It seems pretty clear that they gang will eventually become a thorn in the early Empire's side - and one imagines that the potential for Omega is endless. We could see her again as a crucial Rebel operative/leader during the OT era, say.

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Sure. There is absolutely something there. The interactions between Echo and Hunter and Echo and Omega certainly show his desire to do more. That just surviving isn't enough. How that translates going further...? Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if it's the Bad Batch and Rex who help establish Ahsoka as Fulcrum...

 

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I guess we'll see them end up with Bail Organa's branch of the Rebellion, which could have them intersect both with Ahsoka (who was brought back into the game by Bail, too, as per TotJ) as well as the Syndullas and eventually Kanan (who they already had in the pilot).

One also imagines/hopes they continue the whole Kamino plot. I could imagine the Bad Batch eventually biting the dust, while Omega ends up as part of the Rebellion, possibly as Leia's close friend.

Seeing Serenno again was great, although I'd have liked it if they had included some callback to Dooku (say, holo recording) or even some kind of McGuffin there which would then (eventually) trigger some further mission later in the season.

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It’s also better than the ridiculously slow chase of the RESISTANCE fleet from the FIRST ORDER in The Last Jedi.  In fact, it’s better than anything in The Last Jedi.

The Andor tv show makes Rogue One a lot better for me, but I still cannot accept CGI Tarkin.  It just looks so fake, and it’s movements don’t seem right.

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1 hour ago, Rubicante said:

but I still cannot accept CGI Tarkin.  It just looks so fake, and it’s movements don’t seem right.

You can accept force ghosts, space wizards, blue milk, but you cant look past a bit of bad CGI? 

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12 minutes ago, Relic said:

You can accept force ghosts, space wizards, blue milk, but you cant look past a bit of bad CGI? 

It says something that I'd rather watch a funky little hand puppet Yoda and consider it more lifelike than a CGI Peter Cushing 

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25 minutes ago, Relic said:

You can accept force ghosts, space wizards, blue milk, but you cant look past a bit of bad CGI? 

I'm not sure those comparisons really make much sense - the space wizards or the blue milk don't look terrible, whereas CGI Tarkin looks terrible & creepy. And his eyes look so dead.

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2 minutes ago, Raja said:

I'm not sure those comparisons really make much sense - the space wizards or the blue milk don't look terrible, whereas CGI Tarkin looks terrible & creepy. And his eyes look so dead.

Space Wizards sometimes look terrible. Basically a bit of bad CGI doesnt ruin the best SW movie aside from ESB, imho. 

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1 minute ago, Relic said:

Space Wizards sometimes look terrible. Basically a bit of bad CGI doesnt ruin the best SW movie aside from ESB, imho. 

It doesn't ruin it, but it certainly affects my judgement of it. It was a poor choice.

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Don’t get me wrong, the movie Rogue One is still good.  But yes, there’s just something really unsettling about seeing a CGI version of a dead actor.  It’s like I am looking at a reanimated corpse.  I also wish they would have chosen a different actor.  Same with the shot of Leia at the end of the movie (although in that scenario we didn’t need her at all).

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10 minutes ago, Rubicante said:

Don’t get me wrong, the movie Rogue One is still good.  But yes, there’s just something really unsettling about seeing a CGI version of a dead actor.  It’s like I am looking at a reanimated corpse.  I also wish they would have chosen a different actor.  Same with the shot of Leia at the end of the movie (although in that scenario we didn’t need her at all).

They should have just gotten Wayne Pygram to play Tarkin again. The guy looks very similar to Peter Cushing.

 

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2 hours ago, DaveSumm said:

Not to go down a whole rabbit hole of ‘editing classic movies’, Lucas certainly poisoned that well very nicely. But Rogue One seems an obvious candidate to just … redo that bit of deepfaking, which would look substantially better if done today.

I was thinking the same thing.

In fact it would be nice if we could have a 'What was he thinking?!' special edition of the OT, where someone with a brain goes and fixes all the weird inclusions George made to the special editions. At some point you could even do the Han + Jabba scene and make it look ok. I'd even be happy with a cantina dance number.. ok maybe that is a stretch.

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