Craving Peaches Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alden Rothack said: that went well the road to hell and all that To be fair Daenerys has no one to advise her on keeping dragons. But she doesn't want to just release them into the wild either, which would be very irresponsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Craving Peaches said: To be fair Daenerys has no one to advise her on keeping dragons. But she doesn't want to just release them into the wild either, which would be very irresponsible. Which is why they are good intentions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Alden Rothack said: Which is why they are good intentions I'm a little confused why you said the road to hell was paved with good intentions with regards to this moment though. You could say that any time a character does something good and it doesn't work out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: I'm a little confused why you said the road to hell was paved with good intentions with regards to this moment though. You could say that any time a character does something good and it doesn't work out well. because despite her good intentions it was an innately terrible idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alden Rothack said: because despite her good intentions it was an innately terrible idea So were many other characters' ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, Craving Peaches said: So were many other characters' ideas. Not to the same degree partly due to Danerys knowing a lot less than most of the other major players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Craving Peaches said: If she didn't confine them you'd be complaining she took no action to prevent further tragedies after Hazzea's death. Daenerys did what she could short of killing the dragons, whom she views as her children. A dragon is no child's toy. She should've trained them properly. There's a series on that she can watch. Well, that is that she could've watched if Andals had not behaved like the medieval catholic church for thousands of years and allowed technology to develop. Westeros has Planetos' first university, you know, they had it for thousands of years, probably long before the savages called Andals even learned to carve upon their own flesh, let alone read and write. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said: A dragon is no child's toy. She should've trained them properly. There's a series on that she can watch. Well, that is that she could've watched if Andals had not behaved like the medieval catholic church for thousands of years and allowed technology to develop. Westeros has Planetos' first university, you know, they had it for thousands of years, probably long before the savages called Andals even learned to carve upon their own flesh, let alone read and write. Just to not ONLY shit on Catholicism but Islam initially spread in the Middle East via Muhammed waging war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Also, this topic has been thoroughly derailed. And I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, KingEuronGreyjoy said: Just to not ONLY shit on Catholicism but Islam initially spread in the Middle East via Muhammed waging war But Falsehoods of the Seven is based upon catholicism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, Corvo the Crow said: But Falsehoods of the Seven is based upon catholicism. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, KingEuronGreyjoy said: Just to not ONLY shit on Catholicism but Islam initially spread in the Middle East via Muhammed waging war then invading europe which had the effect of reuniting a good chuunk of by getting them more pissed off at the arabs than each other 3 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said: But Falsehoods of the Seven is based upon catholicism. the worst most anti-knowledge parts 4 minutes ago, KingEuronGreyjoy said: Also, this topic has been thoroughly derailed. And I love it. Yup What was this topic about again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Tristifer_IV_Mudd Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Alden Rothack said: then invading europe which had the effect of reuniting a good chuunk of by getting them more pissed off at the arabs than each other the worst most anti-knowledge parts Yup What was this topic about again Who do you ship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, KingEuronGreyjoy said: Who do you ship? (Repost) Jon X Roslin Frey Arya x Edric Storm Bran x Shireen Sansa x Podric Payne Brienne x SmallJon Umber Cersei and Euron Rob and Myrcella Lannister Barbrey Dustin and Jorah Mormant Asha Greyjoy and Sandor Clegane Danerys and a jug of wildfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 30 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said: A dragon is no child's toy. She should've trained them properly. How is she supposed to do this with no guidance? 31 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said: Westeros has Planetos' first university, you know, they had it for thousands of years, probably long before the savages called Andals even learned to carve upon their own flesh, let alone read and write. And in all that time before the Andals came the First Men failed to upgrade their bronze weapons. The stagnation is not the fault of the Andals. It was present before they arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Craving Peaches said: How is she supposed to do this with no guidance? And in all that time before the Andals came the First Men failed to upgrade their bronze weapons. The stagnation is not the fault of the Andals. It was present before they arrived. bronze is bronze, once you can use iron you get steel then increasingly better steels the Andals not improving is far more indicative particularly as huge cities like Oldtown should be leading the charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 28 minutes ago, Alden Rothack said: Yup What was this topic about again Shipping Dany off on one of Tyrion's ships at the Battle of Blackwater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: And in all that time before the Andals came the First Men failed to upgrade their bronze weapons. The stagnation is not the fault of the Andals. It was present before they arrived. All the more proof of First Men being far more peaceful then Andals. Sure they conducted war against each other, but they didn't try to get better ways of killing eachother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said: All the more proof of First Men being far more peaceful then Andals. Sure they conducted war against each other, but they didn't try to get better ways of killing eachother. I really doubt that, given they were divided into numerous petty kingdoms and fighting each other when the Andals arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, Alden Rothack said: the Andals not improving is far more indicative particularly as huge cities like Oldtown should be leading the charge The Andals did improve though, they went from Iron to Steel, whereas the First Men were stuck with Bronze the entire time. But the whole stagnation/lack of technological progress I think is more to do with world building than it being anyone's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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