Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Of all of Tywin's children Tyrion has always been the one who was in fact the most like his father, having inherited of Tywin's cunning and political intelligence, and having a mean streak and willingness to use dirty means to reach his goals, as seen with his use of wildfire at the Battle of the Blackwater and falsely threatening Tommen to keep Cersei from going against (though he had no intention of doing it as he loves his nephew, though Cersei in her paranoia believed it anyway) though nowhere near his father's level of ruthlessness and spite. However since finally reaching his breaking point at his trial and learning the truth about Tysha, Tyrion has become much darker and more vindicative in his personality, resulting in him killing Shae and his father, and seeking revenge against his family and treating prostitutes in Essos far more cruelly that he did back in Westeros. Ironically this makes him even more like his father, especially in the cruelty and spitefulness areas, even though Penny has a positive influence and has helped him from going too far yet. But it's clear that without other persons to exert positive influence and serious soul searching and character development that Tyrion isn't going to back down from his darker path and that the ressemblance between him and Tywin is only going to increase in the next books. But how much Tywinesque do you think that Tyrion will become over the course of the next two novels ? Where do you think that he will stop ? How much more brutal and ruthless do you think that he will become ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Barring a sudden physiological change of his body, I'd say he's already his father's son.Joanna thinks as much as we see him do things Tywin would undoubtedly have done in his stead (bard stew, shipping off Janos, et al). We don't process it as much until we get Jaime's POV and his talk with Joanna, but it's been there all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 He was always tywins real.heir ..the old.fool.was to blind to see the man to keep casterly rock strong was.right there in tyrions small frame even after his sucess at kings landing. Hes bitter and he has every right to be hes learned about his 1st wife, the brother he adored lying,his beloved whores betrayal, his seeming ally varys betrayl, the trial , murdering his dad , the peoples lack of grattitue for what be did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steller Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 said: and having a mean streak and willingness to use dirty means to reach his goals That describes Jaime and Cersei as well. They all take after Tywin in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizaveta Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I've seen some theories that GRRM is planning on Tyrion's villain arc to take place in future books. The way he treats prostitutes is enough to put him in the immoral characters' list for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 11:09 AM, Elizaveta said: I've seen some theories that GRRM is planning on Tyrion's villain arc to take place in future books. The way he treats prostitutes is enough to put him in the immoral characters' list for me. How much dark do you think he will be then ? What kind of reprensible actions could you see him doing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 11/29/2022 at 7:03 PM, Universal Sword Donor said: Barring a sudden physiological change of his body, I'd say he's already his father's son.Joanna thinks as much as we see him do things Tywin would undoubtedly have done in his stead (bard stew, shipping off Janos, et al). We don't process it as much until we get Jaime's POV and his talk with Joanna, but it's been there all along. It's Genna, Joanna was Tywin's wife and Jaime, Cersei and Tyrion's mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moiraine Sedai Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Tyrion is cunning but suffers from insecurity and bitterness. He’s out of balance. His handicap is a hurdle he can’t overcome but he has something to offer for the good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 See the big difference between Tywin and Tyrion personality wise, is Tyrion wants to be loved. That grounds him a little more to humanity in my book. Tywin only helps people when it's practical and it either gives him power or helps him keep onto power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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