astarkchoice Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 44 minutes ago, Universal Sword Donor said: Right I'm also factoring in that the Wastelands camp is spread out over at least six miles. Even giving them a leisurely 20 minute mile pace marching *should* still get them to the edge of the Lannister camp before a sizable chunk of Lannister men can even get halfway across the camp*. Were Roose even more adventuresome than one would think, he could have used the cavalry a la Tywin to start fires, sow chaos, et al. He does, after all, have more than a few groupings of twenty good men. There's a lot we can pick apart in hindsight but the seemingly misfitting strategy and tactics deployed Roose either show he's fairly incompetent and indecisive -- a touch of McClellan perhaps -- or he was achieving Robb's orders in the absolute worst way possible for his own benefit. Roose has never struck me as incompetent nor indecisive. * obviously making educated guesses here as the detail of how the camp is laid out is lacking Your forgetting the northerners arent formed up.right yet either they are marching so a lot of them wont be in the battle for mins after its started either if they just zerg rushed the camp and again starting the battle.like that forgoes all tactics and formations itd be chaos....chaos with the advantage of suprise yes but tired from marching all night men who are outnumbered massively in heavy horse. The cavalry idea could.def work yes but flipside is less than one 10th of the lannister horse has to get ready (probably spread out in varous mobile stables too )to counter them ........ and worse if the northerners dont take the time to form up properly the 7.5k lannister heavy horse could eventualy potentialy mow them all down like grass! No overall roose did just fine here the night march was a good but risky plan esp.with brynden tully taking out lannister scouts to prep it......a few more of them killed and/or a few more minutes would have made all the difference here...it was a close call for tywin basicaly (who didnt do anything wrong here either as despite bynden murdering a good few scouts there were still sufficent patrols to get word back just in time! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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