Raja Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mladen said: The fact that neither Avatar, Top Gun nor Elvis won anything (save Austin Butler) is a good news. Blanchett and Yeoh winning in their respective categories is well-derserved, Farrell is undoubtedly champion and my pick for Oscars, "The Fabelmans" - not the worst choice. But my heart goes to Ke Huy Quan and Angela Bassett. I haven't seen the fabelmans yet - I tend to avoid Spielberg stuff that is navel gaze-y, but I've heard good things about fabelmans. Will watch at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Ran said: Everything Everywhere All at Once is both pretty good and also really, really over-rated (especially online). Aye. The way some people were reacting to this, you'd have thought it was the greatest movie ever made. It really isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 It sounds like y'all have an issue with the reaction to the movie, as opposed to the movie itself - which are two fairly different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, Raja said: It sounds like y'all have an issue with the reaction to the movie, as opposed to the movie itself - which are two fairly different things. I thought the movie was okay. The wobbly fingers were funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Haven't seen it yet. I'm so behind on things I have to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Raja said: It sounds like y'all have an issue with the reaction to the movie, as opposed to the movie itself - which are two fairly different things. What part of thinking it's about 30 minutes too long is a critique of the audience and not the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 To balance out this discussion, I cannot see The Banshees of Inisherin as superior to EEAAO in any way, except for the acting being top notch in it, too. Spoiler It's a depressing movie about two men, one who is depressed about his lot in life and decides to take it out on his best friend, who is also quite depressed but doesn't realize it until his friend quits on him. Their conflict starts from nearly nothing and escalates in crazy fashion with nothing being accomplished in the end other than the two hurting each other and themselves. It's also set in the backdrop of the Irish Civil War. But if the central plot is meant to be some sort of allegory to that war, I think it fails. The civil war had real, valid causes, the movie's central conflict not so much. The movie is competently done, but any director/writer worth their money would have been able to make this movie. Its production is simple, even the cinematography didn't demand any extra effort. So I don't think such a film should be placed above other film that also have well written stories but offer much more in terms of everything else. On the positive side, the acting is excellent as I said and the actors do deserve the accolades. Its dry, Irish humor is also on point. The greatest thing about the movie is that Farrell's character is named Pádraic, which is almost the same spelling, and he can be blamed for a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 Producers Guild Of America (PGA) Nominations The Award for Outstanding Producer of a Feature Theatrical Motion Picture Avatar: The Way of Water The Banshees of Inisherin Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Elvis Everything Everywhere All at Once The Fabelmans Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery Tár Top Gun: Maverick The Whale The Award for Outstanding Producer of Animated Theatrical Motion Pictures Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio Marcel the Shell with Shoes On Minions: The Rise of Gru Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Turning Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 Directors Guild Of America (DGA) Feature Film Nominations NARRATIVE FEATURE FILM Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert – Everything Everywhere All At Once Todd Field – Tár Joseph Kosinski – Top Gun: Maverick Martin McDonagh – The Banshees of Inisherin Steven Spielberg – The Fabelmans FIRST TIME NARRATIVE FEATURE FILM Alice Diop – Saint Omer Audrey Diwan – Happening John Patton Ford – Emily The Criminal Antoneta Alamat Kusijanović – Murina Charlotte Wells – Aftersun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 Costume Designers Guild (CDG) Nominations Excellence in Sci-Fi / Fantasy Film “Avatar: The Way of Water” – Deborah L. Scott “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” – Ruth E. Carter “Everything Everywhere All at Once”- Shirley Kurata “Hocus Pocus 2” – Salvador Perez “Thor: Love and Thunder” – Mayes C. Rubeo Excellence in Contemporary Film “Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery” – Jenny Eagan “Nope” – Alex Bovaird “Tár” – Bina Daigeler “Top Gun: Maverick” – Marlene Stewart “Women Talking” – Quita Alfred Excellence in Period Film “Babylon” – Mary Zophres “Don’t Worry Darling” – Arianne Phillips “Elvis” – Catherine Martin “Mrs. Harris Goes to Paris” – Jenny Beavan “The Woman King” – Gersha Phillips Makeup Artists & Hair Stylists Guild (MUAHS) Nominations Best Contemporary Make-Up, Feature-Length Motion Picture “The Batman” (Naomi Donne, Doone Forsyth, Norma Webb, Jemma Carballo) “Everything Everywhere All At Once” (Michelle Chung, Erin Rosenmann, Dania A. Ridgway) “The Menu” (Deborah LaMia Denaver, Mazena Puksto, Donna Cicatelli, Deb Rutherford) “Nope” (Shutchai Tym Buacharern, Jennifer Zide-Essex, Eleanor Sabaduquia, Kato De Stefan) “Spirited” (Monica Huppert, Autumn J. Butler, Vivian Baker) Best Period and/or Character Make-Up, Feature-Length Motion Picture “Amsterdam” (Nana Fischer, Miho Suzuki, Jason Collins) “Babylon” (Heba Thorisdottir, Shaunna Bren Chavez, Jean Black, Mandy Artusato) “Blonde” (Tina Roesler Kerwin, Elena Arroy, Cassie Lyons) “Elvis” (Shane Thomas, Angela Conte) “Till” (Denise Tunnell, Janice Tunnell, Ashley Langston) Best Special Make-Up Effects, Feature-Length Motion Picture “The Batman” (Michael Marino, Mike Fontaine, Yoichi Art Sakamoto, Göran Lundström) “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” (Joel Harlow, Kim Felix) “Elvis” (Mark Coulier, Jason Baird) “Roald Dahl’s Matilda the Musical” (Barrie Gower, Emma Faulkes, Chloe Muton-Phillips) “The Whale” (Adrien Morot, Kathy Tse, Chris Gallaher) Best Contemporary Hair Styling, Feature-Length Motion Picture “The Batman” (Zoe Tahir, Melissa Van Tongeran, Paula Price, Andrea Lance Jones) “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” (Camille Friend, Evelyn Feliciano, Marva Stokes, Victor Paz) “Everything Everywhere All At Once” (Anissa E. Salazar, Meghan Heaney, Miki Caporusso) “Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery” (Jeremy Woodhead, Tracey Smith, Leslie D. Bennett) “The Menu” (Adruitha Lee, Monique Hyman, Kate Loftis, Barbara Sanders) Best Period Hair Styling and/or Character Hair Styling, Feature-Length Motion Picture “Amsterdam” (Adruitha Lee, Lori McCoy-Bell, Cassandra L. Russek, Yvette Shelton) “Babylon” (Jaime Leigh McIntosh, Ahou Mofid, Aubrey Marie) “Blonde” (Jaime Leigh McIntosh, Lynnae Duley, Ahou Mofid, Robert Pickens) “Elvis” (Shane Thomas, Louise Coulston) “The Woman King” (Louisa Anthony, Jamika Wilson, Plaxedes Kelias, Charity Gwakuka) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 Critics Choice Awards - WINNERS BEST PICTURE Avatar: The Way of Water Babylon The Banshees of Inisherin Elvis Everything Everywhere All at Once The Fabelmans Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery RRR Tár Top Gun: Maverick Women Talking BEST ACTOR Austin Butler – Elvis Tom Cruise – Top Gun: Maverick Colin Farrell – The Banshees of Inisherin Brendan Fraser – The Whale Paul Mescal – Aftersun Bill Nighy – Living BEST ACTRESS Cate Blanchett – Tár Viola Davis – The Woman King Danielle Deadwyler – Till Margot Robbie – Babylon Michelle Williams – The Fabelmans Michelle Yeoh – Everything Everywhere All at Once BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR Paul Dano – The Fabelmans Brendan Gleeson – The Banshees of Inisherin Judd Hirsch – The Fabelmans Barry Keoghan – The Banshees of Inisherin Ke Huy Quan – Everything Everywhere All at Once Brian Tyree Henry – Causeway BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Angela Bassett – Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Jessie Buckley – Women Talking Kerry Condon – The Banshees of Inisherin Jamie Lee Curtis – Everything Everywhere All at Once Stephanie Hsu – Everything Everywhere All at Once Janelle Monáe – Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery BEST YOUNG ACTOR/ACTRESS Frankie Corio – Aftersun Jalyn Hall – Till Gabriel LaBelle – The Fabelmans Bella Ramsey – Catherine Called Birdy Banks Repeta – Armageddon Time Sadie Sink – The Whale BEST ACTING ENSEMBLE The Banshees of Inisherin Everything Everywhere All at Once The Fabelmans Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery The Woman King Women Talking BEST DIRECTOR James Cameron – Avatar: The Way of Water Damien Chazelle – Babylon Todd Field – Tár Baz Luhrmann – Elvis Daniel Kwan, Daniel Scheinert – Everything Everywhere All at Once Martin McDonagh – The Banshees of Inisherin Sarah Polley – Women Talking Gina Prince-Bythewood – The Woman King S. S. Rajamouli – RRR Steven Spielberg – The Fabelmans BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY Todd Field – Tár Daniel Kwan, Daniel Scheinert – Everything Everywhere All at Once Martin McDonagh – The Banshees of Inisherin Steven Spielberg, Tony Kushner – The Fabelmans Charlotte Wells – Aftersun BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY Samuel D. Hunter – The Whale Kazuo Ishiguro – Living Rian Johnson – Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery Rebecca Lenkiewicz – She Said Sarah Polley – Women Talking BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY Russell Carpenter – Avatar: The Way of Water Roger Deakins – Empire of Light Florian Hoffmeister – Tár Janusz Kaminski – The Fabelmans Claudio Miranda – Top Gun: Maverick Linus Sandgren – Babylon BEST PRODUCTION DESIGN Hannah Beachler, Lisa K. Sessions – Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Rick Carter, Karen O’Hara – The Fabelmans Dylan Cole, Ben Procter, Vanessa Cole – Avatar: The Way of Water Jason Kisvarday, Kelsi Ephraim – Everything Everywhere All at Once Catherine Martin, Karen Murphy, Bev Dunn – Elvis Florencia Martin, Anthony Carlino – Babylon BEST EDITING Tom Cross – Babylon Eddie Hamilton – Top Gun: Maverick Stephen Rivkin, David Brenner, John Refoua, James Cameron – Avatar: The Way of Water Paul Rogers – Everything Everywhere All at Once Matt Villa, Jonathan Redmond – Elvis Monika Willi – Tár BEST COSTUME DESIGN Ruth E. Carter – Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Jenny Eagan – Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery Shirley Kurata – Everything Everywhere All at Once Catherine Martin – Elvis Gersha Phillips – The Woman King Mary Zophres – Babylon BEST HAIR AND MAKEUP Babylon The Batman Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Elvis Everything Everywhere All at Once The Whale BEST VISUAL EFFECTS Avatar: The Way of Water The Batman Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Everything Everywhere All at Once RRR Top Gun: Maverick BEST COMEDY The Banshees of Inisherin Bros Everything Everywhere All at Once Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery Triangle of Sadness The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent BEST ANIMATED FEATURE Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio Marcel the Shell with Shoes On Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Turning Red Wendell & Wild BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM All Quiet on the Western Front Argentina, 1985 Bardo, False Chronicle of a Handful of Truths Close Decision to Leave RRR BEST SONG “Carolina” – Where the Crawdads Sing “Ciao Papa” – Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio “Hold My Hand” – Top Gun: Maverick “Lift Me Up” – Black Panther: Wakanda Forever “Naatu Naatu” – RRR “New Body Rhumba” – White Noise BEST SCORE Alexandre Desplat – Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio Michael Giacchino – The Batman Hildur Guðnadóttir – Tár Hildur Guðnadóttir – Women Talking Justin Hurwitz – Babylon John Williams – The Fabelmans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 1/12/2023 at 4:21 PM, Corvinus85 said: The greatest thing about the movie is that Farrell's character is named Pádraic, which is almost the same spelling, and he can be blamed for a lot. Hah. Those people in the West with their foreign spellings. On 1/12/2023 at 4:21 PM, Corvinus85 said: The civil war had real, valid causes, the movie's central conflict not so much. That is somewhat controversial. It is quite difficult to justify the reasons for the Civil War. The pro-war side lost the vote in parliament and a clear majority of the population voted against them in the subsequent election. They pretty much took up arms because they don't get what they wanted (a fit of petulance if you will but with very tragic results). Subsequent events, after the Civil War, showed that the basis for their arguments were wrong also, which doesn't help. I'm sure there must be good articles out there which makes the case for the comparison between war and film. Willful stubbornness definitely in there. So yes, I think there is definitely a link between the two. Maybe too closely for me to completely enjoy the movie. Aftersun is probably my favourite movie of the year (the fact that it is based on the director's real life is shocking enough). Triangle of Sadness next (crazy movie). Probably Banshees after that. And then EEaaO (which is the most creative). But I haven't seen a lot of movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Even more than the question of the justification for the Civil War, such as it may be, the long and bitter legacy left by the end of the Civil War seems even more salient -- even when the war was "settled", the internecine divisions continued for decades. Yet to see Banshees (grr, so long for the release here), but from what I understand of the story the central conflict of the film is a metaphor more generally for how grievances could spiral out of control and into endless tragedy. This goes for petty grievances as much as serious ones, when people stubbornly refuse to come to terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Ran said: Even more than the question of the justification for the Civil War, such as it may be, the long and bitter legacy left by the end of the Civil War seems even more salient -- even when the war was "settled", the internecine divisions continued for decades. True. 3 hours ago, Ran said: This goes for petty grievances as much as serious ones, when people stubbornly refuse to come to terms. And true. You can certainly widen your comparisons beyond the immediate war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog-days Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 After reading @Ran and @Padraig's posts, I feel pretty dumb for not working out just why Banshees was set during the Civil War. The bit of my brain that copes with metaphor must have been fast asleep when I saw the film on its release last autumn. I remember thinking: 'brilliant film with apparently random period setting'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 hours ago, dog-days said: After reading @Ran and @Padraig's posts, I feel pretty dumb for not working out just why Banshees was set during the Civil War. The bit of my brain that copes with metaphor must have been fast asleep when I saw the film on its release last autumn. I remember thinking: 'brilliant film with apparently random period setting'. To be honest it really only clicked after I saw the movie and read up about it. The connection to the war is a little tenuous and I’m not entirely convinced the message of the movie is that clear, or even good. I enjoyed the movie well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Honestly, it only became clear to me at the end (but when they mentioned the war was going on at the time, I did get suspicious). But I don't think it was designed that people needed to know (since most people who watch the movie wouldn't know). And I do prefer the journey than the eventual message that for "petty grievances as much as serious ones, people stubbornly refuse to come to terms", Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 EE British Academy Film Awards (BAFTA) Nominations Spoiler Best Film All Quiet on the Western Front The Banshees of Inisherin Elvis Everything Everywhere All At Once Tár Outstanding British Film Aftersun The Banshees of Inisherin Brian And Charles Empire of Light Good Luck to You, Leo Grande Living Roald Dahl’s Matilda The Musical See How They Run The Swimmers The Wonder Outstanding Debut By A British Writer, Director Or Producer Aftersun – Charlotte Wells Blue Jean – Georgia Oakley & Helen Sifre Electric Malady – Marie Lidén Good Luck to You, Leo Grande – Katie Brand Rebellion – Maia Kenworthy Film Not In The English Language All Quiet on the Western Front Argentina, 1985 Corsage Decision To Leave The Quiet Girl Documentary All That Breathes All the Beauty and the Bloodshed Fire of Love Moonage Daydream Navalny Animated Film Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio Marcel the Shell with Shoes On Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Turning Red Director All Quiet on the Western Front The Banshees of Inisherin Decision To Leave Everything Everywhere All At Once Tár The Woman King Original Screenplay The Banshees of Inisherin Everything Everywhere All At Once The Fabelmans Tár Triangle of Sadness Adapted Screenplay All Quiet on the Western Front Living The Quiet Girl She Said The Whale Leading Actress Cate Blanchett – Tár Viola Davis – The Woman King Danielle Deadwyler – Till Ana de Armas – Blonde Emma Thompson – Good Luck to You, Leo Grande Michelle Yeoh – Everything Everywhere All At Once Leading Actor Austin Butler – Elvis Colin Farrell – The Banshees of Inisherin Brendan Fraser – The Whale Daryl McCormack – Good Luck to You, Leo Grande Paul Mescal – Aftersun Bill Nighy – Living Supporting Actress Angela Bassett – Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Hong Chau – The Whale Kerry Condon – The Banshees of Inisherin Dolly De Leon – Triangle of Sadness Jamie Lee Curtis – Everything Everywhere All At Once Carey Mulligan – She Said Supporting Actor Brendan Gleeson – The Banshees of Inisherin Barry Keoghan – The Banshees of Inisherin Ke Huy Quan – Everything Everywhere All At Once Eddie Redmayne – The Good Nurse Albrecht Schuch – All Quiet on the Western Front Micheal Ward – Empire of Light Casting Aftersun All Quiet on the Western Front Elvis Everything Everywhere All At Once Triangle of Sadness Cinematography All Quiet on the Western Front The Batman Elvis Empire of Light Top Gun: Maverick Costume Design All Quiet on the Western Front Amsterdam Babylon Elvis Mrs Harris Goes To Paris Editing All Quiet on the Western Front The Banshees of Inisherin Elvis Everything Everywhere All At Once Top Gun: Maverick Make Up & Hair All Quiet on the Western Front The Batman Elvis Roald Dahl’s Matilda The Musical The Whale Production Design All Quiet on the Western Front Babylon The Batman Elvis Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio Original Score All Quiet on the Western Front Babylon The Banshees of Inisherin Everything Everywhere All At Once Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio Sound All Quiet on the Western Front Avatar: The Way of Water Elvis Everything Everywhere All At Once Tár Top Gun: Maverick Special Visual Effects All Quiet on the Western Front Avatar: The Way of Water The Batman Everything Everywhere All At Once Top Gun: Maverick British Short Animation The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse Middle Watch Your Mountain is Waiting British Short Film The Ballad Of Olive Morris Bazigaga Bus Girl A Drifting Up An Irish Goodbye EE Rising Star Award (voted for by the public) Naomi Ackie Sheila Atim Emma Mackey Daryl McCormack Aimee Lou Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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