EggBlue Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 12/11/2022 at 11:10 PM, Craving Peaches said: Rape, Murder, Attempted Murder, Treason, Incest, Assault... Anything else? are we holding a trial? LongRider, Morte and Hugorfonics 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 1 minute ago, EggBlue said: are we holding a trial? Sure. EggBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Stonehearts Simp Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 32 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Sure. I find him guilty of being a sexy himbo! Morte, LongRider, Craving Peaches and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 minute ago, King Maegor the Cool said: I find him guilty of being a sexy himbo! Give him a hand! Hugorfonics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevets Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 If we're holding a trial I would charge: Three counts of murder (Jory, Heward, and Wyl). Attempted murder of Bran. Aiding an escape (Tyrion). Conspiracy to aid a fugitive (Sansa). Treason for fathering children on the Queen and passing them off as legitimate. Craving Peaches, SaffronLady and sifth 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csuszka1948 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Nevets said: If we're holding a trial I would charge: Three counts of murder (Jory, Heward, and Wyl). Attempted murder of Bran. Aiding an escape (Tyrion). Conspiracy to aid a fugitive (Sansa). Treason for fathering children on the Queen and passing them off as legitimate. Well, that's the worst kind of person. He fathers children on the Queen and kills a child to hide the secret but values them so little that he aids the (apparent) murderers of her own son Joffrey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Complicity in the gang-rape of Tysha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 12 hours ago, Nevets said: Treason for fathering children on the Queen and passing them off as legitimate. I have difficulty blaming him for cuckolding Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 5 hours ago, BalerionTheCat said: I have difficulty blaming him for cuckolding Robert. Why? I hate Robert and think he deserves the deceit and humiliation. But Jaime is cuckolding the King. He took vows as a Kingsguard. Plus him giving the queen who happens to be his sister three bastards and passing them off as Robert’s caused TWOT5Ks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, The Wolves said: Why? I hate Robert and think he deserves the deceit and humiliation. But Jaime is cuckolding the King. He took vows as a Kingsguard. Plus him giving the queen who happens to be his sister three bastards and passing them off as Robert’s caused TWOT5Ks. Plenty of people are responsible for the TWOT5Ks. Jaime is far from the top. I don't think he cared for his children or for kingship. Cersei chose the father. For all three mind you. No accident there. Honestly, I don't care for vows to kings like Robert or Aerys. Robert was far from the worst of the lot. But not for a king. Morte 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Murder of Ned’s retainers, and assault and battery on the Hand. Murder, pillage, rape of the folk of the Riverlands, who were living under the King’s Peace (he commanded half the Lannister army, and bears command responsibility). Attempted murder of Bran. Assault and blackmail, by threatening to murder Edmure Tully and his infant. Treason and incest (attempting to pass of Joffrey as heir). Abetting the rape of Tysha. Perfidy, due to his breach of the conditions of his parole, to Catelyn Stark. Murder of vagabonds (who may or may not have been guilty of capital crimes, but were granted no chance to speak in their defence). It’s a sordid list. SaffronLady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 32 minutes ago, BalerionTheCat said: Plenty of people are responsible for the TWOT5Ks. Jaime is far from the top. I don't think he cared for his children or for kingship. Cersei chose the father. For all three mind you. No accident there. Honestly, I don't care for vows to kings like Robert or Aerys. Robert was far from the worst of the lot. But not for a king. Please, let’s give Jaime all his due for the TWOT5KS. He and Cersei deserve that top spot. They plotted, murdered, and deliberately was reckless. Jaime is absolutely at the top of the list. Let’s remember that Jaime willingly chose to give Cersei those three children, and could and would have given her more. I don’t care about vows to kings and stuff either. But Jaime spent his whole Kingsguards career breaking them and the country reaping the consequences. Anyways let’s give Jaime the credit he deserves for a horrible war and now a country at it’s most vulnerable because he’s a piece of shit. SaffronLady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Wolves said: Please, let’s give Jaime all his due for the TWOT5KS. He and Cersei deserve that top spot. They plotted, murdered, and deliberately was reckless. Jaime is absolutely at the top of the list. Cersei killed the king, not Jaime. It was her thirst for ruling, for having her children ruling. Not his. Her foremost, then Joffrey, LF and Lysa Arryn, Varys and his friend from the east, the Starks (Cat, Ned and Robb), Renly and the Tyrells, Stannis, Tywin, Balon. All are before Jaime in this affair. Jaime was there only defending his little brother. Yes, he has plenty of deaths on his hands. His own killings. But little of this war is his plotting. Edited April 10 by BalerionTheCat Morte, Craving Peaches and Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, BalerionTheCat said: Cersei killed the king, not Jaime. It was her thirst for ruling, for having her children ruling. Not his. Her foremost, then Joffrey, LF and Lysa Arryn, Varys and his friend from the east, the Starks (Cat, Ned and Robb), Renly and the Tyrells, Stannis, Tywin, Balon. All are before Jaime in this affair. Jaime was there only defending his little brother. Yes, he has plenty of deaths on his hands. His own killings. But little of this war is his plotting. Jaime would have killed Robert anytime and anywhere. He was even angry that he didn’t get that chance. Jaime only never killed Robert because Cersei didn’t want it to happen at that moment. Just because Jaime wasn’t actively plotting doesn’t mean he’s excused from the huge role he played. Just remember that Jaime stood by while Cersei plotted, and thirst for power and did nothing. He even actually willingly helped her get closer to her desires and plans by giving her three bastard children she passed off as the king’s. Jaime tried to kill Brandon Stark because he and the queen were committing treason and incest carelessly in Winterfell. That actually pushed the Starks. Jaime giving Cersei three bastard children is why Stannis got in it, gave LF his weird motivations to cause chaos, etc… Like I said let’s give this worthless piece of shit his due in this war. Jaime is as worst as Cersei IMO. He stood by most of the time while Cersei and even Tywin pulled their horrors. The lack of accountability that people give Jaime on his huge roll in starting a war and his reckless acts that lead to it is mind blowing. SaffronLady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, The Wolves said: He stood by most of the time while Cersei and even Tywin pulled their horrors Yes, he stood by a lot. And did their bidding too. That is what the KG and soldiers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenin Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 2 hours ago, BalerionTheCat said: Jaime is far from the top. The war cannot start without the bastardry. Jaime is at the very top, right there with Cersei and Petyr. 2 hours ago, BalerionTheCat said: I don't care for vows to kings like Robert or Aerys. Morally speaking? No, i do not either. But when breaking those vows throws the country to distraous civil wars, one cannot act as if they are not responsible. 2 hours ago, BalerionTheCat said: Cersei chose the father. I find it kind of tiring when everything Jaime does is blamed on Cersei, like he is a child or a drone without will. Didn't Jaime choose to stick his dick there? 1 hour ago, BalerionTheCat said: Jaime in this affair. Jaime was there only defending his little brother. And siring bastards that directly started the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, frenin said: I find it kind of tiring when everything Jaime does is blamed on Cersei, like he is a child or a drone without will. I remember this pointless thread. I will not return to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenin Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 7 minutes ago, BalerionTheCat said: I remember this pointless thread. I will not return to it. Why yes, it's always the same argument of poor victim Jaime. He couldn't refuse to sire bastards and passing them off as royalty... It was Cersei all along. SaffronLady and Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 On 12/11/2022 at 7:15 PM, Bowen Marsh said: I don't mind so much what he did to Bran. It led to the War of the Five Kings and weakened Westeros but that war was coming anyway because the Baratheons mismanaged the kingdom. I hate Jaime for what he did to Aerys and the Targaryens. That war absolutely wasn't going to come, because they had high debt. It's all rooted in the false heirs placed on the throne. It's very strange that you don't mind the attempted murder of Bran, but hate Jaime for killing a mad tyrant. SaffronLady, Ser Arthurs Dawn and Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willam Stark Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 51 minutes ago, Lee-Sensei said: That war absolutely wasn't going to come, because they had high debt. It's all rooted in the false heirs placed on the throne. It's very strange that you don't mind the attempted murder of Bran, but hate Jaime for killing a mad tyrant. He's a Stark hater and Targ worshipper, don't waste your time with him. SaffronLady, Ser Arthurs Dawn, kissdbyfire and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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